I can't see anything and I've looked at them side by side.

What I have noticed is that it works with my 10-50 WAY better. (Yes, I know I was running it out of spec). I haven't had it on the road yet but what I've noticed is:

• Almost no B screw tension to put it in position on a 50t. With V1, it needed nearly full extension
• On the stand, shifting at the bigger cogs seems crisper
• The initial calibration point is WAY off. But it was on the V1 as well. The position for gear 1 lines up about the 5th cog.  Easy enough to fix with the initial calibration but it makes one think it's messed up at first. Once calibrated, no micro adjustment needed on a Garbuaruk 11s

We'll see on the road tomorrow I hope.

So it’s plug and play with the rest of the V1 components?

I’m interested to hear how you go with this!

Yep! Exactly right. Again, we're using it out of spec and it still works (mostly) fine, but with the extra space required on the b-screw it's not as snappy and responsive to shift as it was before.

On a happy note, 80's Designer store seems to have agreed to sell me replacement "wheel guides and wheel", so I'll soon find out if that's the part I think it is. I shared the same image where I circled the lower parts and that's what they replied back with. I'll update when I receive them. Whether it works or not, it's another example of 80s Designer Store being the #1 best store to buy this groupset from, as their response has been fast and I'm really happy they are willing and able to sell replacement parts for it.

Edit: (added picture provided by 80s Designer Store showing what they are providing)

This is exactly what I need after I bent the cage. How much did it set you back?

Interestingly here in OZ you can get a SRAM mullet upgrade kit (Force shifters, Eagle derailleur and Force brakes) for the same price as the Wheeltop.  Yes the Sram requires XD hub and Cassette to get the 10-52t.  However, it enables a bigger spread of gearing, bought locally with Sram quality and support.

Makes for a tough choice.

Someone mentioned the wheeltop ability to tune individual gears/sprockets.  I see the benefit of this, but I can imagine that once you start you never stop tinkering until it drives you made, whereas the Sram should 'just work' out of the box.

I'm interested in the Wheeltop, very interested, but I would have expected 33% cheaper than Sram electronic.  I have an Xcadey power meter and top end Chinese wheels, both are great, the companies are great, but when things go wrong it still takes 2-4 weeks to xchange info and actually get any new parts from the time I raise an issue..... not necessarily the fault of the company but the geographical and communication logistics. I'm not complaining here because the products were somewhat cheaper than local mainstream alternatives...... and this is without talking about going into a local bike shop for help, and the look they will give you when they realise you have an unknown groupset for which nobody has been trained or carries parts.

All food for thought, I was super excited for the Wheeltop groupset, but the price has put a damper on that excitement.

I read your reply and couldn't believe it, but you're right! Absolute no-brainer here in Aus, I'd go SRAM any day of the week.

The reason I chose L-TWOO a while back was because of how much cheaper it was than the GRX equivalent.

Hi! Anyone have link (aliexpress / amazon) for stem which fit to YFR068? Some i see use normal rounded stem.
Second question i have order 58 size I'm 188cm, max lower seatpost i can do is 6.5 (on seatpost measure) which give me with saddle 83cm but i need 80/81 cm saddle height. I need to cut 1/2cm of seatpost or something is wrong with frame? My seatpost only lower to seatstays and thats all

Regarding stem, it's unique to this design (it's a d-shaped steerer tube), so you're very limited in what you can use. The best bet is to use what comes with the bike and make sure you get the proper length.

The seat post can (and pretty much has to) be cut. My seat post (on the 54cm) was WAY too long, but I just took a hack saw to it, rounded the edges with sandpaper and got it to be long enough to fit my battery inside, but short enough so the height was perfect.

I hope that helps!

There's a very comprehensive thread already on this topic - you'll find your answer there

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4109.0.html

Will install eGR on my gravel bike soon. How do you guys waterproof your derailleurs? Ive seen some people mention liquid  electrical tape but where do I apply it? Around the cable port after the cable is plugged in?

That's what I did as a preventative measure. Get everything 100% properly installed first (make sure your batteries work, there's no draining etc), then I applied it where the cable enters the derailleur.

Yesterday received spexcel top and penis knockoff bibs (pimmer) - I can't believe how far Chinese cycling clothing has come over the years. Both are excellent, I'd say the PNS bibs are about 85% of the real deal, and good enough for training.

The Spexcel top is lovely, apart from the zip. I just wish the Chinese clothing had better zips, but apart from that, all ok!