Damn thanks for all the advice and for that massive save/assist. I was aware of some people facing some issues regarding 017d however i didn’t know it was that bad.

I think I will contact Peter about the r06 frame as well. It weighs almost same as LCR017 and in my opinion looks much better. I will keep you guys posted once i close this deal with Peter. According to this forum, he is a massive legend.

Btw this forum is absolutely amazing! Thanks guys

I agree that alce 017 isn’t the best looking frame. I have one and don’t like it much visually. But what I want to say is don’t rush on that.

if you see all threads absolutely every company has had more than one complain. Sometimes those complaints get disguised or are less visible because they are not repeated 300times… anyway LC is a legit and trustworthy factory. I deal quite a lot with frames from china. Don’t deal with clones, and i have some preferred providers, either by finishing quality or by quality/price. I value communication and after-sale support. You can have a different criteria. This to say that sending someone to search for a solution to their problem on a forum online is not exactly top notch support as well.

anyway between those choose not only what u like the most, but also what fits you best. you’ll have a great product anyway

Judging from the picture (worth what is worth) that frame is gone.

You can sand the area to see but that looks like on a few layers under but I'd just look for a new frame.

Tideacebike

Thanks, it looks like an interesting option.
I don´t think I´d need or want an higher stack.
Which groupset did you use and how easy was the building?
Thanks again.

105 mechanical (hydraulic)
Full internal cable routing
Full build was a breeze (well keep in mind 4 cables in the hb has their challenges, but by far the it was the easiest hb to work with for that.

I think the only real problem this frame has is that rear thruaxle which is annoying to fix whenever u need to remove the rear wheel.

Love the concept of the bike. geometry is ok (some jumps in between sizes), but design wise seems a mix-match. I prefer more standard looking ones.

But i’m sure i’ll have clients for this. Good quality and service. Looking forward to have one in my hands

Hey all! Is there any chance that Schwalbe G-One Allround 35mm will fit into this frame? I ride a "gravel" bike and thinking about building one more on LCR017-D or LCG071 frame, but still an all-rounder (no pun intendent). Both looks fine but I like LCR017-D's sleeker look more. In short I ride mostly city roads and very shitty city roads, sometimes dirt roads and trails, so these tires are perfect for me and I need a strong frame with some extra tire clearance which will forgive me surprise potholes, big asphalt cracks, bunny hops, curbs etc. Any recommendations?

Honestly I dont think u can fit 35 into the 017. I have gp5000 32 and there is not much clearance left next to the bottom bracket. I can try to measure one of these days

Hello all, I am going to China for 6 weeks this summer and since I am in interested in getting a new road bike I've been looking into Chinese brands so I can buy it and ride iit there and then bring it back. Most of the brands I've seen are just offering frames. What are some companies yall would recommend for a complete bike? The ones I have found are Serk, Seraph, Elves (small selection)

Also does anyone have any experience with buying a bike in China and then bringing it/shipping it back to the EU? Do I have to pay customs or VAT or anything like that?

Thanks

You have to ride it there (it needs to look used). If it looks new you'll pay.

Not sure it is worth. I think it's easier to try a couple of them there and then order them to be shipped to the EU

yeah. I tend to agree with both. LC position seems quite fair.
And it’s always a good reason to buy new ones.