yeah seems like the whole ordeal with Leon didn’t end too well. Hasn’t actually placed orders.
I wonder if he just didn’t do that or whether he also funneled the payments.

Anyways, let’s see how this goes on.

Cannot confirm this:

I contacted Leon via company email (sales@yuananbike.com) and finally ordered on 30th of July and, altough I told him I got some issue with my Paypal and probably wont be able to pay before the end of the week (1st / 2nd August), he nevertheless said he placed that order because his discount promotion ended 31th July (and according to him the pricing would have changed if he waited).
For Paypal payment he told me to use "xiamenyuanan@foxmail.com" (which is the same adress as on their website https://www.yuananbike.com/delivery/payment) and that I can use F&F friends option or have to add some % if I use regular payment.
I finally payed on 1st of August using the F&F option.

On 22th of August I asked him (using "reply" on the same company email we used for communication before) about the status of my order.
He replied within a day or two, telling me that it is still in production but not giving any ETA or further information (which was fine for me as I dont expect a chinese OEM to do any carebaby-customer-service or be espacially tight on single-order delivering times)

Yesterday -after reading in this thread that Leon probably left the company- I contacted Yuanan through their contact form on their website, asking about the status of my order number.
Today I got this reply (from marketing@yuanbike.com):
Hello highwind,
This is Kelly from Yuan an bike. Leon has left our company .
Your goods have been sent out on Aug, 30th.
The tracking number is 123456789YXZ
Here's tracking link :  https://t.17track.net/en#nums=whatever
Thanks&Best Regards
Kelly Lee  (ODM SALES MANAGER)
 

Tracking is working and says it just arrived in Germany today with DPD being the carrier (which is also what Leon and I agreed upon while ordering).
So 10/10 for Leons and Yuanans credibility from my side.

I did order mine on 24th of July, then it was produced by 15th of August then a long time no messages from Leon even on request. Shippping confirmation I got on 30th August seeing it's been shipped on 25th, now awaiting delivery.
Maybe tomorrow.
YAG45-04 UNI or something like that. Guess we two texted on mydealz too on the Campagnolo thread.

Ah, I see - "Servus and danke für die Info!"
With my order being placed some days after yours and then also arriving some days after yours, their production lead times seem very constant - which is good to know for the future.

Also shit that u r writing and agreeing on just shows how low standard person u are, don't expect it from others. Justifying lying, horrible customer service and "scam looking" practices only helps those who wanna represent low standards. No one is expecting babysitting customer service here u are talking bullshit.

You seem to confuse me justifying stuff with me naming facts 

But hey, its not my unrealistic expactations shattered, but those of you "wannabe-high-standard"-fantasizer... and if alternating between rage, denial and insulting / calling me names makes facing reality more bearable for you, then be it.
At the end of the day my expectations (as the low standard person you call me) got me a nice carbon wheelset for less than 500 bucks while your expectations (as whatever you tell yourself you are) got you nothing but some hassle, wasted time and effort

Was there any incentive to buying from Leon instead of brand stores on Aliexpress? In my case I was quoted $495 + fees shipped for 50mm deep 1490~ grams rim brake wheelset.
On Aliexpress, if you time your purchase right you can score Elitewheels Edge 1290-1300 grams 50mm deep wheels for 500 ish (using coupons) and you get at least some customer support + in the worst case PayPal backup.

For me there definitely was (better pricing and better/more options…)

I was quoted $475 (shipping/tax included) for a 44mm deep / 31 (outer) wide wheelset with RD13 XDR hub and Pillar AERO1423. Total weight was said to be 1480g (+/- 30).
Aliexpress didnt even come close - either much more expensive or slightly more expensive for higher weight and non-ratchet hubs.
Also Leon / Yuanan had several positive feedbacks on chinertown and reddit.

And Paypal „backup“ is usually a complete joke anyways - you are better of paying with CC and doing a chargeback when things go bad.

@highwind  How do you like the CSC wheels?

I didnt order CSC wheels but went with Yuanan Bike / Leon
The Wheelset hasnt arrived yet

Any other reason you want 50mm depth wheels for gravel? I used to run 38mm depth gravel wheels and even then they'd be prone to scratches from rocks and other debris. I'm now running 30x30mm depth hookless wheels with 25mm internal width. They're quite a bit lighter for climbing and less prone to rock scratches.

My riding/track profile is ~70-80% asphalt, ~20-30% (fine) gravel and very rarely (wide/solid) forrest roads. I have chosen the A/1 over a pure racing bike because of the slightly more relaxed geometry and the ability to mount more comfortable 32-35mm wide tyres (semi slicks). Perhaps an endurance bike would have been the optimal choice but I got a very good deal on the A/1 (1000€ shipped for the 700c Apex 1) and also liked that magnesium frame. Furthermore the region I live and ride in is neither particular hilly (thats why I got the 1x11 instead of a 2x) nor windy.
I totally appreciate your warnings on the disadvantages of higher rims, but I dont think those will be too relevant in the usual setting I will be driving them.

Nevertheless I am still thinking about going lower because 50mm might infact look a little goofy on a non-race, non-aero frame like the A/1s.
A pic of your 38mm rim equipped gravel would be very welcome

CSC France store is BS. They state that they ship everything from France but once you place the order it suddenly turns out that they are "out of stock" but can ship from China for no extra cost.

LOL, guess what - I asked that seller (Freesports Store) about options on different hubs and spokes and in their answer they also told me (without me actually asking for it) that those wheels arent in stock in the EU warehouse but they can ship it from China with DPD at no extra cost/VAT/duties!
So obviously the same seller on a different name...

Thing is: as long as I dont have to pay anything extra and dont have to mess around with customs, I couldnt care less where it is actually shipped from and if it takes one or two weeks longer to reach me...
So, besides their "fake EU warehouse" CSC is fine, arent they?

Hey everybody,

I am looking for a wheelset for my Vaast A/1 gravel/allroad bike.
Rim dimensions should be 50mm height and  >30mm outer width... it is mostly for looks, as I dont exactly care about the last XXg.

ICAN G25 700C seem to be very fitting, but they are a little more than what I would like to spend and arent available with a 6 bolt disc mounting.

Do you know anything compareable in dimensions which is availbale with 6 bolt, XD hub and costs less than 500€? I dont need (expensive) Sapim CX-Ray spokes.