If I could go back I probably wouldnt get a slc3. Bikes been flawless and has perfect QC, but the speeder 55 looks like a much better value. The winspace brand promises better quality and aftersale support, and if that turns out to not true then they are not worth it. TBH I was looking at buying the slc2 when it was on deep discount, then I seen the SLC 3 get announced and it was more of a impulse purchase.

I have a "winspace authorized dealer" bikeshop in my town and they said they warranty winspace frames/hyper wheels and they said winspace is great about covering repairs under warrenty on their wheels (theyve never seen a frame come in for repair) so that is reassuring

35mm would just be slightly lighter. Usually 40-55mm deep wheels have such a small weight penalty over ~30mm that its a no brainer to get the deeper wheels. Crosswind stability for wheels below 55mm deep is not much of a concern. Id don't think 9velo is a good value. I avoid many of these premium Chinese brands that are trying to compete with western brands. Price is double that of an OEM, and the product and support/warranty is the same, sometimes worse.

INCOMING...

65mm 34 external/26 internal - 5.0mm carbon spokes and ceramic bearings.

I opted for the T800 instead of the lighter T1100. Still lighter though than my Magene Ultra DB607, Winspace Hypers, and Elite Drive/Helix as similar depths. Thanks Peter!

My second wheelset from peter just shipped, D50CU36 rims, t800, 24/24, pillar 1420 and they are 1350grams My first wheelset is similar to my new except D65CU33 and weight is 1500grams.


Based off my wheels and Pattys wheels here, it seems the T800 rim weights have decreased from peters wheelset from last year. T800 wheelsets are ~70grams less than what I estimated from previous wheels on this thread. I am definitely not complaining 

How do people feel about the new Winspace C5 Aero? It looks vaguely interesting but I'm suspicious it might be more of that faux aero thing several brands are doing now.

C5 aero looks good if you want an endurance aero frame, except without the endurance geo and with no money spent on r&d or testing for aero

I think the only issue with recent aero frames is the stack is too low. 32c Tire clearance frames can typically fit 35c


If we just had a specific bar&stem that added a good amount of stack without looking stupid or require 100 spacers that would solve basically all issues

D50CU33 w/ T800 and 24/24 steel spokes is 1400g at $600 shipped to us


D50CU33 w/ T1100 and 20/20 carbon spokes is sub 1200g at $950 shipped


Spending 50% more on less durable wheels to save ~200grams is probably not worth it for any of us who dont race

I'd also include frames being replaced via warranty claims as part of the price point too.

In my recent video featuring a set of $3000 ENVE SES 4.5 wheels, several ENVE customers mentioned how good ENVE's warranty service is. And several viewers also said this is because the company essentially builds into their pricing two "free" replacement set of wheels under warranty, no questions asked, within the first three years of ownership. Basically the customer is paying for 3 sets of ENVE wheels upfront.

By this logic if Chinese brands selling $600 frames were to offer a similar warranty/service, frames would probably cost closer $1500-$2000. Makes sense why it's in their best interest to just produce frames as robust as possible even if with a slight weight and ride comfort penalty.

I wonder if Winspace, Tavelo, and SEKA would do the same. Considering their frames cost about the same.

I spoke with a winspace authorized dealer in my area before buying my SLC3 to ask about their warranty. He said hes only ever seen a winspace frame once in his life, a t1550 and it didnt need repaired. But he did say he sells a lot of the hyper wheels in store and they are better than most brands with warrantying things when needed, but he hasn't had to warranty many of wheels at all.