and be careful because paypal is not helping anymore on this. Latest experience with paypal have been very bad, a waste of money. Probably aliexpress is more safe now.

Is credit card any better at helping with disputes?

My current one has done me great service on my several old MTBs and previous road bike - all QR skewers ofc and my previous brake discs have all been the 6 bolt versions.

Now I've got myself into today's biking world, I find the thru-axle spacer is preventing the tool teeth reaching the brake disc centrelock lockring, though still ok on the cassette side.

So I need one with sufficiently long internal clearance to reach over the spacer on the disc side - anyone able to point me to such a thing?

Wondering if it would it work with 12 speed GRX?

Yes but not an issue. The wheel end caps extend far beyond the lock ring. If your bike was supposed to have disc brakes, it will have clearance for external lock rings.

ok ta - ive ordered some discs with external locking included. I'll update once I've installed and ridden with them

Have a set of Edge wheels in transit - Steel Bearing, 40mm, Inner width 21mm, SHIMAN0 - reassurance from reading this forum and also tracevelo helped me overcome my initial reluctance to finally go for a big ticket AE purchase.

Can anyone help me out with a disc query or 3. I've just asked Elitewheels as well, but as it's already the weekend for them - I'm assuming it could be Monday before I hear back.

1. Do I need to source the disc lockring or will it come with the wheels? There's no mention on the AE Edge page [url]https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004767705476.html[url] so I'm guessing not.

2. If I need to get lockings with my discs what version should I get? I'm seeing that many discs come with an external included, so if that would work I won't need to buy separate internal lockings.

Bike is a Giant Revolt and the current wheels are Giant CXR-2 with Shimano SM-RT70-S rotors - those have internal lockings.

Eyeballing the CXR-2 hubs in the frame /fork there seems to be quite a bit more spare clearance on the rear than the front.

3. I'm guessing that's potentially misleading & I need to see the Edge wheels installed to work out if there's room for an external or maybe I should just buy some discs with external and try and fit them? Happy to take pics if it'd help.

Any thoughts/experiences welcome - last time I bought & fitted disc brakes was about 10-12 years ago for my mountain bike.

No, they are not speed specific. In fact there are pretty cheap Goat Link alternatives on Aliexpress and they work all the same. Lets face it, its a piece of metal that lowers the derailleur.

Thanks for confirming

I think Ali gives brand new customers a "welcome deal" that lowers the price but it's only for your first purchase on the platform or something. It's dumb

Yep dumb & frustrating

Make a new account with a new email and pay by card (not PayPal) and you can collect as many welcome deals as you like.

Interesting that would work - wish I'd spotted it on my recent order for a pair of Elitewheels - that kind of % saving would've been worth the hassle. But for a few £s I wouldn't be bothered tbh - I'll just be pissed off instead 

I was looking at the recommended Raudax top and saw a great price https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005007101108645.html?af=2454844&cn=50110&cv=1&dp=je6NUbpObpQ-vT4csM5lz7E1kJ8QwIGXNA&LSNSUBSITE=Omitted_je6NUbpObpQ&aff_fcid=ba80024d1976409a94721fd4f00f053d-1725206913185-05889-_DmYcslv&tt=CPS_NORMAL&aff_fsk=_DmYcslv&aff_platform=portals-tool&sk=_DmYcslv&aff_trace_key=ba80024d1976409a94721fd4f00f053d-1725206913185-05889-_DmYcslv&terminal_id=7c2b0fae595e473f883ef7a57b6efed2&afSmartRedirect=y the price shown was around £6.89 GBP - wasnt paying too much attention so it may have been a little less - I just noted it was a great price.

But when I logged in to my Ali Express account the price changed to £10.99 GBP -any suggestion to why that happened?

I'm sure I didn't imagine the lower price & it wasn't the usual AE seller routine where they have a cheaper lower spec item to display an attractive price to get you to click.