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Messages - mheusler

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Yes, it's the entire list. Unfortunately...

not sure where you take that information from. As jefflinde explains you can use any Pantone color in addition to the ones they have in the list on the website, e.g. the chameleon colors.

How I know? Because that's what I did as well with my bike - I combined one of the chameleon colors with a Pantone color they didn't list on their website.

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I'm mostly done with my build now, it went much quicker than I expected. I had to order a replacement front derailleur, for some reason the first one didn't work properly. Even after holding it side-by-side with the new one, I couldn't figure out what was wrong.

Next steps are to adjust & bleed the brakes, have a quick shakedown drive and put on the handlebar tape. After that give it a good cleaning and add some protection on the chainstays, etc..

Quick summary of the setup:
  • Frameset: Lightcarbon LCR017-D, superlight, size 54, HBR 13 integrated bar & stem 420x90, seatpost with 0mm offset
  • Wheelset: Lightcarbon C52DB Carbon Gravel Wheelset, 33mm deep rims, with upgraded spokes (Sapim CX-Ray)
  • Groupset: Shimano 105 R7100, 12-speed mechanical, disk brakes
  • Tires: WTB Expanse 32 (there's enough room to fit 35mm tires or even a bit bigger)
  • Saddle: Brooks Cambium C13 Carbon
  • Pedals: Shimano PD-ES 600

Weight is around 8.2kg in the current setup (incl. pedals), which is more than good enough for my purposes.

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Is that 550usd for the integrated stem/handlebar or the one just with the stem?

How much for paint + decals?

quoting myself (from the same part that you quoted, even): "for the frame set as described on the LC website".
From the LC website: "Frameset includes: Frame +fork +seat post+clamp +headset bearings+spacers +thru-axles+ HBR13 integrated handlebar"

Paintjob in total was 215 USD.

I would recommend just to reach out to the LC team, e.g. Jim Lee. They are super helpful and responsive and can give you the most detailed and up-to-date info, especially when it comes to shipping / customs / duty and any extra wishes you might have.

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I have cut the steerer tube on my bikes few times without ever disconnecting hoses. In your situation it gonna be a bit more complicated since your not going to be able to slide the handle bar off that steerer tube. You will need to cut the steerer twice, first to get it low enough to pull the handlebars off still attached to the hoses, then a second time measured to final length.

Turns out it was fairly easy to get the handlebar off, after all. Cutting the steerer was a breeze as well - I just clamped down the fork on my workbench and free-hand sawed it off with a metal saw (helps to have some practice with sawing in general from all the woodworking I do). A bit of sanding off the burrs and it was good to go back on the bike.
Second time routing the four cable hoses through the handlebar was much easier, too. 

Installing the headset properly was a learning experience, luckily there's so many great videos available.

I'm moving on to install the STI shifter/brakes now and then setting up brakes, FD and RD.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, bottom bracket and crank installation was very easy. The crank spins super smoothly - I went with a BB that Lightcarbon provided (i thought i can't go too wrong for 15USD). Will have to see how it holds up over time of course, but I can easily switch to another BB if required, T47 be thanked.

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Over the last days I built the bike up bit by bit.
The wheels arrived today so I did a quick dry fit. Overall I have to say the geometry seems to fit me quite well, at least in a static position. With the 90mm stem length, as opposed to 120mm I have on my current bike, it feels quite a bit more relaxed.
This feeling matches what I hoped to get, from comparing the geometry and the measurements with my current ride, which is nice.

I mentioned it before, but I love the way the paintjob came out - the glossy chalk white with the contrast of the matte chamaeleon paint is a dream.

Not sure if I will be able to do a maiden ride this year, but I was able to make fairly good progress in the build so far. Routing the four cables through the handlebars was quite the hassle, especially knowing i would have to do it at least once more after cutting the fork steerer tube to length ...



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LCR017-D ? Standard or Lightweight version ? How much did you pay ? Any (closeup) photos ? Including internals, etc ?

There are so many different companies and models, I'm getting confused. Is there a contact person on the forum for the LCR017-D ? How is this compared to TanTan or Xiamen Carbon Speed ? I'm planning to get the wheelset from Carbon Speed, but still holding back as I'm undecided on the frame.

This is the LCR017-D thread, so yeah that one, in the superlight version. I paid 550 USD for the frame set as described on the LC website. Shipping/customs/duties and custom paint job + decals come on top.

I didn't take any photos and will only take a few of the build throughout the process.

Jim Lee was the contact person i dealt with, he was active some time back in this thread. Haven't seen him here for a while now. However, he was always super responsive and helpful throughout the whole process.

I have no way of comparing to other companies, it's the first time for me going this way about buying/building a bike. My first/current bike is a Canyon race bike i bought 20 years ago.

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I received my frameset yesterday, took a bit longer than I thought but that's not an issue for me. I'm in no rush and will use the christmas break to build up the bike.

I did a thorough inspection of the frame and fork (including checking inside with an endoscope) and everything looks as close to perfect as I could have hoped. All mounts are faced, there's no overspray anywhere and all parts were included.
The paintjob is absolutely perfect, the initial pictures Jim sent to me (linked earlier in this thread) didn't do it justice, at all.

The saddle clamp mechanism is a bit finicky and caused a moment of frustration, but after a couple minutes the installation of the saddle worked out well enough.

So far, off to a great start.

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I've already detailed all the issues in this thread with pictures. Im glad that your frame turned out ok and it's probably due to the fact that I was "crusading" my issues with LC acting as their test pilot/ guinea pig

just out of interest i looked through the thread again, as i couldn't remember you posting anything with respect to major issues with the frame itself.
This was the only thing I found:
"The front and rear caliper mounts could've been faced to help with alignment.  The rear cutout for the derailleur hanger was a bit wonky and needed a little persuading to help it align to prevent it from binding up the axle when the set screw was tightened.  I choose black to specifically camouflage the overly boxy down tube.  Other than that the bikes been a dream to ride the first 400 miles thus far."
That, plus that you're unhappy with the paintjob (white base coat / no clear coat).

Can you remind me again which other issues you're talking about?


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Well I'm sorry you feel that way but I'm going to continue to voice my concerns about the safety and overall quality of LCs frame.  I wouldn't be surprised if you changed your tune after your frame was delivered and experienced some of the issues that I did.

now that's just plain garbage: "voice my concerns about the safety and overall quality of LCs frame". You're doing nothing of the sort or at least not in any constructive and sensible fashion. But you knew that when you wrote it.
I realize that you won't change your behavior even when called out on it repeatedly. So you do you ...
For the rest interested in a proper conversation here, we need to continue to filter out your noise.

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Not to be rude but why don't you go and kick rocks if you're not interested in my thoughts on LCs  crap manufacturing and Quality control issues.?

because i've read it a couple of times now in this thread. it got old very quickly and is helping absolutely no one with the questions they have.
And i'm commenting on it to try to get you to stop, because the forum software doesn't seem to allow me to block people like you, so i wouldn't have to endure the same drivel on nearly every page ...

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It seems that LC's quality control department has been on an extended vacation. It might be worth the extra money if you're interested in saving your face and collar bone from any down time or permanent rearrangement. If I could do it again I would definitely stay away

i would very much appreciate it, if you wouldn't continue to pollute this thread with your tired opinion on the QC topic. You have voiced that often enough, it's clear where you stand with that and at this point you're contributing only noise instead of any helpful advice ...

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I'm 100kg in weight, and 187cm tall, and I'm looking at the 58cm size. I'm planning to do a lot of sprint training on my new bike, and I'm wondering whether I'm risking my collarbone and teeth trying to save 500 dollars.

While I'm still waiting for delivery of my frameset and wheels, I would just caution you selecting this frame based on your weight and intended use. This is a claimed "superlight" frame, and I would be hesitant to go with that frame and rather go with a more beefy frame.
I'm no lightweight myself at around 85kg, but I'm not planning to subject the bike to super heavy loads, rather just general road bike exercise (no races).

But, as mentioned, i've not yet been able to use the frame so maybe others can chime in with more real-world experience.

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just got an update from Jim, that my frame has been painted and that it will be shipped to me shortly.
So far i'm pretty stoked about the look.

Hoping, of course, that the quality is good. But so far I've been happy with the process, even though there was a slight delay.

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you're quite brake ordering one. FYI, you can buy USB endoscopes for super cheap on alix, in your shoes, i'd 100% get one and make a conscious effort to inspect all tubes of the frame i receive, because composites manufacturing isnt trivial, especially now that we all want light frames again. If your layers aren't compacted properly (should be much less of a problem now that EPS / latex moulding is very widely used), or if you're straight up missing material in key areas, then bad things can happen.
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not to worry, i have ordered an endoscope already and intend to thoroughly check the frame once i have it in my hands. I will share here if i find any issues.

But i don't think it's brave of me to order one - the risk, at least in my view, is fairly small. And that, for me, is okay, especially given the prices we're discussing.
And if there's any issues, i have all winter to get this sorted with LC ...

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Looking at maybe starting a build with this frame, have many gotten it yet? What is the "cheese" incident

it refers to the frame tiagosantos_ss received (here's his post including two pictures https://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,4309.msg65396.html#msg65396), and the quality issues. It had a couple of voids in the upper seat tube area. There was some back and forth with Lightcarbon but they ultimately agreed to send out a new frame to tiagosantos_ss.

I have put my order in a couple of weeks ago and i'm looking forward to receiving the frame early November. I hope, of course, that my frame will not show those kind, or any kind really, of QC issues.

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