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Re: looking for a frame with modern geometry The answer to the question is pretty simple.........Law. Most of the carbon frames are built in Asia by factories not owned by the bike companies. When they design a new frame and have this Asian company build it, they make them sign confidentiality agreements. They are not allowed to use any proprietary knowledge learned from building frames for others. If they do they are breaking the law and can face legal penalties not to mention loose a ton of work from others they might be building for who may no longer trust them. That's why what you see coming out of open mold designs is older technology. Those agreements on those designs have expired and the frame builder can use some of that technology on their own frames.

I have a DengFu M06 and that design incorporates some newer technologies like a 68.5 head tube angle, 73.8 seat tube angle and 435 chainstays. Yeah not 425-430 but for a full suspension frame that's pretty short. If you're looking for the latest and greatest technology from a Chiner builder you're pissing up a rope! They are not in the business of design, their forte is manufacturing.

October 26, 2017, 10:42:28 AM
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Re: Pro-mance M7007 II Build (9000 g/19.84 lb) Very nice, but let me ask you why are you riding a medium frame being 182cm tall? No wonder you are using a 100mm stem  ???
April 01, 2020, 01:49:26 PM
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