My frames arrived today after only 13 days on the road, really like the paint job and the quality of the frame. Looks and feels very sturdy. My XL frame comes in at 3kg, incl. axles and shock placeholder. A bit heavier than I had hoped, but still fine.

 How tall are you Helmat? I am 191cm, want to order but numbers look small to me.

dream build...

Think its coming into reality.
I went ahead without the group buy.
Paid and now waiting.
It seems small is in production and there are units which is recently tested and done.
Jpg are too large to attach here

Where did you order?

Any new information on the frame? I was told 17,19 inch january, other sizes later. I was thinking 21 for me, i am 191.5 cm tall 91 cm inseam, maybe 19 will be ok, but i dont want another too small bike, had some before:(.  Maybe they should make chainstay longer on 21 inch like santa cruz and a flip chip for running different wheelsets 27+ and 29.

Thanks Sitar_ned,
I will post a tread if I find a suitable frame for my build. Bafang is the undisputed king for DIY ebike community(BBS series) and best bang for your buck. Their new generation motors with integrated tourqe sensor are on par with big players Bosch, Shimano, Brose, Yamaha...and have many advantages in price, throttle option, DIY battery, open software, more power, easy availability. We just need modern geometry quality frames with short chain stay, boost rear spacing, intube battery space...then we can build excellent DIY ebikes