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Fat Bikes / Non-carbon fatbike frames
« on: February 15, 2018, 11:19:01 AM »
Sorry for the slight offtopic, but can anyone recommend good unbranded aluminium fatbike frames? Been scouring Aliexpess/Alibaba for those, really hard to find. Need a fatbike frame that has 12-197 rear axle (enough for a 4.8" tire), 120 or 100m BSA. This is the kind of frame I'm after:


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Fat Bikes / Re: My 197 build
« on: January 24, 2018, 06:25:42 AM »
Your pictures aren't showing :(

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29+ & 27+ / Re: E bike plus frame
« on: November 24, 2017, 01:34:07 PM »
The weight of the ebike has marginal effect on the efficiency of the battery. Most of the energy goes into acceleration, not into actual maintaining of speed. What an ebike give you is an ability to very quickly accelerate from stationary position. I have ebikes of different weights, from 16 to 27kg and I see no difference in battery consumption. Ultimately, the weight of the bike is marginal compared to my weight (77kg) so a +/- 10kg change in the weight of the bike only translates to just around 10% total weight saving. It's just not worth it.

Some of the things you can have as a result of "f~k weight economy":

  • Install a heavy planetary gear hub such as Rohloff or NuVinci
  • Install a rack and put a load on it. I use the rack to take my son to school (30kg)
  • Use heavy 1.5mm bicycle tubes; this is puncture protection at the cost of extra weight

Honestly, I wouldn't worry about weight unless of course you go for carbon. Carbon doesn't take the stresses so well, not to mention that any direct impact has a chance to just break it. With carbon, perhaps you do need to calculate weight. And I do know that carbon ebikes exist, but they mainly exist because they are commuter folding bikes that you need to be able to pick up. Most ebikes are too heavy to pick up, which is why manufacturers add Walk Assist functionality so you can get them easily up the stairs.

About pedaling the ebike when not on battery power. On Yamaha: yes, doable. On Bosch: no way; the front sprocket is too small to make pedalling comfortable. And if you go for a gear hub, well, that makes things even worse: pedaling a Rohloff without assist is possible, and if you run out of power you can do it for short periods of time, but it's not very efficient and you won't go fast. You should be OK pedaling on a Bafang, but I haven't tried it myself so I cannot say for sure; Yamaha bikes have large front sprockets so it's not such a big deal there.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: E bike plus frame
« on: October 30, 2017, 11:19:23 AM »
I have extensive experience with ebikes, so let me add a few subjective thoughts:

  • You don't need a carbon frame on an ebike. In fact, I would advise against it due to the higher stresses on an ebike's rear wheel. Steel - heavy steel - is just fine. I mean one of my ebikes is 27kg and I don't care - why should I, it's an electric bike. And no, getting it up the stairs isn't a problem.
  • Comparing factory bikes with Bosch/Yamaha systems and Bafang is like comparing BMW and a Lada. Factory systems feel solid and safe, Bafang is a random chinese factory experiment where key features such as pedal assist are an afterthought.
  • Bafang does not have a torque sensor. This is a critical feature in an ebike and not having it means your Bafang-equipped bike is essentially a moped that has no idea how much torque you need at a given time. Makes the bike harder to drive and a lot less safe!

If you do decide to go for a Bafang, I would recommend a fatbike rather than a plus bike because, honestly, it doesn't matter and the fat tyres will give you even more comfort. Remember -- weight doesn't matter at all.

Another recommendation -- don't install a derailleur. I used to have derailleur-equipped ebikes, then I got one with Rohloff 500/14 and OMG I will never have a derailleur on an ebike ever again. There's just no point! Also, remember ebikes can wrap a dirty chain around the motor when you have enough slack, well, with a hub gear your chain doesn't move anywhere -- it's stretched to maximum, so you're never at risk of chewing it up. I had so much trouble with this!

Let me know if you have any more ebike questions :)

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: April 16, 2017, 03:56:00 AM »
Speaking of this frame, how does one adapt a typical bottom bracket to BB92? For example, say I go for a Shimano 1x11 groupset - the XT MT800 bb states that is it compatible with 68mm and 73mm shell - what would you need to do to get it to work with BB92?

It's super simple, just get one of these.
http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-SM-BB92-41B-Bottom-Bracket

This appears to be the XTR variety. I did find a Shimano XT BB though, hopefully that's the right one.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: April 15, 2017, 05:08:30 PM »
Speaking of this frame, how does one adapt a typical bottom bracket to BB92? For example, say I go for a Shimano 1x11 groupset - the XT MT800 bb states that is it compatible with 68mm and 73mm shell - what would you need to do to get it to work with BB92?

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26er & 27.5 (650b) / Re: 24" frame options?
« on: March 26, 2017, 07:37:41 AM »
Well I'm sure it could be lighter still if carbon frames were available, but sadly they are not.

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29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: March 23, 2017, 08:22:44 AM »
Seems like this isn't available for ordering yet. I think I'll wait until one of you brave souls buys it, does a build and posts your experiences.  ;)

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26er & 27.5 (650b) / Re: 24" frame options?
« on: March 21, 2017, 03:24:12 AM »
Thanks, I think if a 26" was small enough I'd go for that. Meanwhile, I found that Specialized do a 24" aluminium bike that weighs just 9 kilos (!) with 2.8 tyres. I'm unlikely to build anything better myself, TBH.

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26er & 27.5 (650b) / 24" frame options?
« on: March 19, 2017, 01:24:36 AM »
'Sup everyone. I was wondering, are there any options for carbon frames for 24" wheels? I'm looking for something decent for my kid, his current bike weighing 16 kilos :(

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