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29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: May 23, 2017, 11:18:32 PM »
You get this thing built up yet?  Any rides?
Not yet.  The paint protector film guy is taking forever. Over three weeks now. Never using him again. Sorry for the delay in the build.

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: May 06, 2017, 09:45:51 PM »
We've been talking past each other. And I've been unclear. Sorry.  :)

I've ridden the Spark. It's an awesome bike. That's why I'm considering the CS-FS27.
;) Beers are good tonight! 

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: May 06, 2017, 08:05:39 PM »
Just so we're clear, I'm not bagging on the Scott or the FS-27. I'm probably going to buy one soon.

If anything, I'm defending the Scott from being compared to a SC. Had two SCs. Big, fat waste of money.

I'd love a 130/122mm FS to compliment my Yeti ASRc. I have two frames from Peter already, four Chinese carbon in total. Been very pleased.
I wasn't in any way speaking for or against SC or Scott. Nor was i speaking to your posts other than saying that if you want a really close comparison,  ride the spark.  This is my wife's ride.  My bikes come from the large volume brands or boutique'ish brands. That being said,  this build is fun.  That's all from me.

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: May 06, 2017, 06:43:50 PM »
Numbers on a table are one thing, but the actual riding position, when shocks are set up properly, is very different. They share similar geometry, but ride nothing alike.

I don't disagree with the fact that they could ride completely different. But with new frames straight from china, geo numbers is all we have to go on. But out of curiosity, have you ridden all 3? If not, it's not a fair judgement to say that they ride nothing alike.
If you want to know how this frame feels, there is an easy solution.  Go to lbs. Ask for Spark 700 plus series. Test ride. It is the same. I promise. Suspension tune may play into it a little but it is a spark 700 plus. Its a fun bike.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: May 01, 2017, 08:34:21 PM »
Definitely keep us posted on the lock up issue.

As for torque wrenches, it's good to get them calibrated when you first get them if they haven't been at the factory. If you can get them checked periodically, that's good too. If they stay in a case and aren't abused, once every few years is fine. I use them almost everyday so mine are checked every 6 months but that is quite excessive for most. Dropping them on concrete, say off of a toolbox, voids the calibration too. That's just a PSA about torque wrenches.

What kind of place calibrated a torque wrench?

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: May 01, 2017, 05:55:04 PM »
I'm really curious what's going on with your rear triangle. I would loosen all the suspension hardware half a turn and see if it moves freely then.

As an aside, do you own a torq wrench? If not I would definitely recommend getting one. I have a park tools set which includes a 1/4" drive wrench, Allen and torx bits, it was like $80. I couldn't help myself on Black Friday and bought basically the same thing at harbor freight for < $10. Without a sale you can probably get a 1/4" torq wrench and bit set from harbor freight for $20.
The frame and wheels are at the graphics place. I'll try loosening the triangle as soon as i get it back.  I also emailed Peter about the issue. Hope it's something easy.
I did get a cheap torque wrench from Amazon and it works great so far. Figured that and a bike repair stand were pretty important.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 30, 2017, 05:39:04 PM »
So...I'm pretty sure I mounted my tubeless Maxxis Ikon tire backwards. I don't think I want to fix it. Thoughts?

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 30, 2017, 01:55:39 PM »
One week is awesome!

What do you mean by locked? Once the dummy shock is removed, it should go through its travel pretty easily.
It didn't come with a dummy shock...nothing at all in there. Its just solid, like it's locked somewhere.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 30, 2017, 12:12:51 PM »
Does anyone know how to unlock the rear triangle? It's rigid right now...probably that way for safer shipping.
Speaking of shipping it only took a week for the bike to show up after it was shipped. No custom issues at all.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 28, 2017, 02:09:48 PM »
FYI - Rear rotor size is listed as 160mm. I have 180mm rotors with a 20mm spacer.  I put the spacer and caliper on and it was 20mm too tall for the rotor. I direct mounted the caliper and it fit  the 180mm rotor perfectly. I don't have any 160mm rotors to test with but i would guess that they would be too small.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 27, 2017, 12:23:39 PM »
So I talked to the graphics people today. I'm going hand the frame over to them (stripped down) before I complete the build. They are working up an idea of what needs to be done to protect the paint. I'll let everyone know details as soon as I get some.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 27, 2017, 08:34:21 AM »
Love it!  Some decals to match those rim would make it perfect.

That is the plan!

FYI - If you go with Peters matte finish, make sure to add a matte clear coat. The paint is fairly fragile without it. 

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 26, 2017, 09:57:30 PM »
I slapped the parts together to get an idea.  I ordered the last few tools, parts and tires yesterday. Only thing i still need to figure out is the rear shock bushings. The control knob/dial for the rear shock touches or almost touches the frame. I'm thinking about getting offset bushings to move dial off the frame. I also need to figure out the bushing sizes. I ordered a digital caliper to get exact measurements.  Here's a snapshot from my phone.

I'll be pulling it all back down and documenting the build soon.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 25, 2017, 10:14:22 PM »
I couldn't resist the weather and ended up going for a ride.  Ill start tomorrow.  ;D

29+ & 27+ / CS-FS27 Build
« on: April 25, 2017, 02:57:10 PM »
So I'm going to start off by saying that I'm probably going to need some help figuring this out. Secondly I'd like to thank Peter at / for his help getting me all the things I need.

Important Build Notes
  • Rear shock bushing sizes- 20.2mm wide with 8mm bolt and 50mm wide with 8mm bolt.
    I'd recommend getting offset bushings even if you're not wanting to change the geometry. The offset, if both bushings are aimed in the same direction away from the seat tube, will help with any clearance issues with the shock. The control dial on the Manitou McLeod comes in contact with the frame just slightly with normal center drilled bushings. (
  • The cable routing is pretty bad as far as having the shift cable housing running under the bottom bracket shell. Just keep that in mind. It won't bother me too much, but I know some people won't like it.
  • If you are getting custom paint and going with a matte finish, have them put a coat or two of matte clear coat on it. The matte paint is fragile.
  • The DH940C rims were super easy to mount tubeless. One layer of Orange Seal tape and 1 16g CO2 got it started enough for me to hook up my pump and pop it the rest of the way on. After I got the tire on the rim, I deflated the tire, removed valve core and injected sealant. No leaks at all. I'll post tire clearance photos when the rear tire comes in.
  • Rear rotor size is 180mm, not 160mm as listed.

I'll keep editing this post and updating it with anything new that comes up.

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