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29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: September 22, 2017, 02:33:21 PM »
Since it looks like trunnion mounted stocks are not going to be an option any time soon, if at all....

Has anyone considered using an offset/eccentric shock mount bushing to effectively shorten the shock side leverage of the pivot by 2mm?  I'm still trying to work out the actual numbers, but some rough guestimation puts it right around 107 mm travel.  Dropping to 6x22 hardware would allow for 110mm travel.  Sure its not the full 120, but for relatively little money, it gets you half way there.

Any thoughts or concerns about trying this?

I decided to pick up some 1/2" round aluminum bar stock from amazon for $5.  I'm going to drill and tap a hole, as offset as possible to maximize the increase in travel.  I think I can get a little closer to the edge by bolting right into it, rather than drilling with a larger hole for the normal 8mm hardware to go through.  Hope that makes sense.

Anyway, if I get bored one rainy day, Ill see if I can fabricate something up.  Or I may just decide its not worth the aggravation for a measly 7 to 10 mm extra travel.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Sizing
« on: September 12, 2017, 06:06:40 PM »
Just in case anybody needs to add an extra 1mm of clearance on a sram PF-GXP / BB92 like I did, I came up with a ghetto hack for it.  I found a keychain split ring that was 22mm ID.  I clipped one coil off, right before the bend, so it had a 5mm gap in the circle.  This allowed it to compress some, and sneak the spacer into the bottom bracket through the larger 24mm drive side bearing.  Once in there, you need to position it with your fingers so that when you insert the crank spindle in, the ring will go around the splines, right up to the step in the spindle.  Now when you snug the NDS side, which is what locates the spindle, its moved over about 1mm to  the drive side, thus creating one precious mm of extra space.

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Sizing
« on: September 11, 2017, 03:11:39 PM »
Perhaps the comments above mentioning a 30t limit were referencing a non-boost chainring?   I'm using a non-boost (6mm offset) chainring on mine, and a 28T absoluteblack oval just brushed against the frame until I put a 1mm spacer on the drive side.  Unfortunately this squeezes the bottom bracket just a touch, resulting in increased drag, but its hard to justify spending 70 bucks without actually getting anything for it.  Anyway, I'm pretty confident a non-boost 30T oval or possibly a 32T round would almost certainly make contact even with the spacer.

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: August 28, 2017, 01:58:39 PM »
Thanks guys, from what I can tell, the Anthem shock was a bust due to the air filler valve location.  RS as a whole is not my favorite brand.  I like fox, but seems overpriced.  I like x-fusion, but not a full price either.  The manitou has been recommended over and over on various threads, so thats the direction I'm headed.  Seems like it could be a longer term shock than originally expected since its possible there wont be any trunnion shocks that fit. 

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: August 28, 2017, 06:55:49 AM »
Has anybody actually successfully mounted the rockshox RCT3 deluxe 165x42.5 yet?   I have to return the x-fusion shock I bought due to non functioning rebound.   I'm softening my stance towards RS since there no other game in town for 120mm travel.

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: August 26, 2017, 02:04:16 PM »
FS27 Build

29+ & 27+ / Re: Ican P8 full suspension build
« on: August 24, 2017, 06:43:45 AM »
Awesome build, R_Pierce.  Cant wait to see some pics with the new fork installed, and maybe a couple ride reports once shes completely dialed in.   Bike looks amazing!

29+ & 27+ / Re: CS-FS27 Sizing
« on: August 18, 2017, 03:14:09 PM »
I think you made the right choice.  I dont know how it compares to what youre riding now, but the 19" I ordered has a longer reach than my current 19" frame, even though the ETT is the same.  If torn between sizes, I would have gone smaller.  Even at 6' even, I wonder if I should have sized down.

Agreed on the AsiaCom warning.  I bought a pair for a friend, and those are the first and only bars I've had fail the "stomp test".   They failed at the shoulder.  They also deformed easily and I heard crackling when clamping the lever and shifters.  Really disappointed.  Been trying to get my $15 back for two months, I get endless promises, but no refund yet.  Anyway, steer clear.  Plenty of better quality options out there, though the bars are one place I prefer to pony up for name brand stuff.

Component Deals & Selection / Re: Chinese hubs?
« on: August 16, 2017, 12:12:27 PM »
I'm a clyde and mash pretty hard.  While I liked the hub, I found koozer freehubs to start to fail after about 500 miles or so.  My Bitex / BHS hubs have been relatively trouble free for 1500 miles.  Theres very very slight deformation, and I had to replace the pawl springs once, but otherwise theyre holding up pretty well.  Ive heard novatecs are fine for light riders, but not clydes.  Ive not heard much about chosen hubs, but I believe they are an OEM manufacturer for a few big names.

Component Deals & Selection / Re: take chance on $15 NECO
« on: August 16, 2017, 12:08:03 PM »
I have had probably 6 or 7 NECO headsets over the years.  One time I developed some creaking and clicking, and when I pulled the fork, the lower bearing had come apart.  Come to find out the bearing only had about half the balls it was supposed to have.  But this was an isolated incident.  All the other neco headsets Ive had have been flawless.

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: August 12, 2017, 05:37:48 PM »
The picture shown isn't nessasary the one you are buying.
Go look at a 2017 Anthem look how it is mounted that is what you are buying.
Yes, I did look up the anthem after posting, and youre probably right.  Different size shocks probably have different mount points but are all considered trunnion.   Searching that model shock all showed pics of the mounts past the body, but then anthem clearly shows the mounts ON the shock body.

Anyway, I didn't mean to say it was a poor shock in any way, its just the RockShox as a company is just not for me.  I love sram, but have always disliked RS forks, so I'm reluctant to try their shocks as well.  But in no way did I mean to imply it was a bad shock in any way.  I'm just going to wait for the size/technology to trickle down to the point end of season deals start popping up on XF or Fox shocks.

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: August 11, 2017, 05:58:28 PM »
That does look good. Are they all being shipped with the new routing?

EDIT:  Spoke with Peter, and yes, they are all being shipped with routing through the bottom bracket now.  Good work everybody who helped to convince him to make the design change.  Thanks.

As for the shock, the RS RT3 doesnt look like a trunnion shock to me, although I guess it has integrated spacers making it the full body width, so myabe that counts.  The pictures Ive seen of proper trunnion shocks show the mounting holes going into the top of the air can / body of the shock.  Not just a wider mounting tab like the standard shocks have.  Either way, the point is moot from my perspective.  I'm anit-rockshox to the bone.  Ill keep waiting for more options.  Thanks for the info though.

29+ & 27+ / Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« on: August 10, 2017, 02:28:49 PM »
I'm taking the plunge with a build of my own.  Officially ordered a stock 19" FS27 from Peter last night.  Excited to see how the quality compares to the Flyxii hardtail I built a couple years back.  This will be my first foray into full suspension, so feel free to slap me around if anything looks amiss.

Anyway, Ill be replacing the On-One parkwood frame I am currently riding, and Ill most likely be adding a [temporary] X-fusion O2 RCX shock for the time being, at least until the 165x45 shocks become available.

Here's the build spec:

CarbonSpeed FS27
X-Fusion O2 RCX shock
X-Fusion Sweep with Roughcut HLR damper
Nextie Jungle Fox II 52mm (i45) carbon rims on BHS/Bitex Hubs (3mm spacers for 142 to 148)
Nobby Nic 2.8 front and rear
SRAM x1 crankset with Absolute Black oval 28T
SRAM X01 11 Speed shifter, GX derailleur
e*thirteen 9-46t TRSr cassette (511% range)
Shimano m785 xt brakes
Raceface SixC bars, 35mm stem, nashbar carbon post and FR1 saddle, xpedo spry pedals

My current hardtail is right around 26 lbs flat.  I expect the new FS rig to be right around the same.   I ride mostly tight twisty xc singletrack with the occasional rooty climb or descent, and a 2-3 foot drop here and there.  I have no problem getting behind the seat, so no dropper for now.

Not counting the cost of the old frame, this seems like it should be a lot of bike for having only $3K into it.  Any suggestions or tweaks?

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