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29er / Re: Steven-iam's DengFu M06 Build
« on: August 19, 2017, 08:17:46 PM »...blue Loctite ...Will do. Thank you
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29er / Re: Steven-iam's DengFu M06 Build
« on: August 19, 2017, 08:36:33 AM »
Update 2: Pivot Bolts
So it seems my pivot bolts loosen up after a few rides, not a big problem except the one over the bottom bracket. There is not enough room for a standard allen wrench. The only way I could tighten it is to remove the cranks. I don't think this is a problem if you have anything under 32 teeth. I solved the problem with a "Stubby" wrench I found on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7XGWI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thought you might want to know.
PS. Does anyone know if they use Loctite on the Pivot Bolts?
So it seems my pivot bolts loosen up after a few rides, not a big problem except the one over the bottom bracket. There is not enough room for a standard allen wrench. The only way I could tighten it is to remove the cranks. I don't think this is a problem if you have anything under 32 teeth. I solved the problem with a "Stubby" wrench I found on Amazon:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000E7XGWI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Thought you might want to know.
PS. Does anyone know if they use Loctite on the Pivot Bolts?
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29er / Re: New DengFu M06 Build Coming
« on: July 31, 2017, 09:23:17 AM »
Congratulations! Can't wait for your review and pics.!
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29er / Re: New DengFu M06 Build Coming
« on: July 26, 2017, 09:05:10 AM »i could fabricate a little bracket...
...or just use the bottom hole for the top of the cage and use a zip-tie to secure the bottom. No problems so far. You just loop the zip-tie ends up into the cage bottom hole from the bottom and tighten.
http://chinertown.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1186.0;attach=1561;image
http://chinertown.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51.0;attach=1774;image
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29er / Re: Dengfu M06
« on: July 23, 2017, 06:57:56 PM »How much torque did you guys use for shock binding posts? My M06 does not have any required values printed anywhere.Not sure what a shock binding post is, but if it is the rear shock sex bolts, I had to grind them because they were a tad too long. I just tightened them as much as I could without stripping them.
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29er / Re: DENGFU M02?
« on: July 06, 2017, 04:41:35 PM »He is looking at a hard tail.
Oops, you are correct sir... I was thinking FS. Stay Hydrated my friend.
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29er / Re: DENGFU M02?
« on: July 06, 2017, 11:21:42 AM »That's a bit of a BS statement....
Those are strong words... But FYI here are the head tube angle specs for some of the very top XC bikes.
Specialized S-Works Epic = 69.5
Cannondale Team = 69.5
Yeti ASR = 68.0
SantaCruz Tallboy = 68
Giant Anthem Advanced = 68
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29er / Re: DENGFU M02?
« on: July 05, 2017, 08:57:28 AM »So not sure how exactly that ( 71.5°) would affect me....
FYI... All the new bike frames have less than 69 ° slack and short chainstays. That frame would be obsolete.
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29er / Re: Chinese Carbon 29er Pic Thread.
« on: June 29, 2017, 05:27:06 PM »
This is my Deng-Fu M06 pic. For more info visit http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,1186.0.html
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29er / Re: Steven-iam's DengFu M06 Build
« on: June 21, 2017, 01:15:41 PM »
Adbl, please post on this thread what you ended up buying.
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29er / Re: Steven-iam's DengFu M06 Build
« on: June 20, 2017, 05:30:21 PM »
Yikes, these are hard questions.
1. The M06 just feels a tad softer in all directions. I like it, I don't get as beat up. Mainland China doesn't seem to have the high-strength carbon techniques that the Taiwan factories have. I'm pretty sure you will see that the high-end Specialized, Cannondale, Yeti etc frames are made in Taiwan, but don't quote me on this. What attracted me to the Deng-Fu M06 is the 68.5 degree slack, short chainstays, and a good reputation.
2. My rear shock is a Rockshox Monarch XX 165x38mm w/ Lockout M/M Tune. (my old cannondale had a pro-pedal setting) The Monarch XX rear shock is standard on the Cannondale Carbon Team which has a zero pivot design. I only measure for recommended sag. I probably should rent an analyzer from the LBS.
Hope this helps.
1. The M06 just feels a tad softer in all directions. I like it, I don't get as beat up. Mainland China doesn't seem to have the high-strength carbon techniques that the Taiwan factories have. I'm pretty sure you will see that the high-end Specialized, Cannondale, Yeti etc frames are made in Taiwan, but don't quote me on this. What attracted me to the Deng-Fu M06 is the 68.5 degree slack, short chainstays, and a good reputation.
2. My rear shock is a Rockshox Monarch XX 165x38mm w/ Lockout M/M Tune. (my old cannondale had a pro-pedal setting) The Monarch XX rear shock is standard on the Cannondale Carbon Team which has a zero pivot design. I only measure for recommended sag. I probably should rent an analyzer from the LBS.
Hope this helps.
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29er / Re: Steven-iam's DengFu M06 Build
« on: June 19, 2017, 10:31:03 AM »...but they never fixed the cable routing for the rear shock.Hi Carbon Dude. What's wrong with the rear shock cable routing on the new M06?
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29er / Re: Steven-iam's DengFu M06 Build
« on: June 19, 2017, 10:28:11 AM »Are you light? There is a fair amount of spacers over the headtube. It is probably for ride comfort, but due to the asymmetric force on the lefty adapter, I would be worried about the extra lever and the headtube resistance.Hi Carbonazza,
I weight 155 lbs, The stem is as low as it will go. Since the lefty is taller, the spacers only fill in the gap between the headtube and the fork clamps. Also the shortest stem length I can go is 90mm, which gives you a low stance for XC. As far as stress from a lefty over a normal fork... I really think it's negligible, all normal forks only have the shock mechanics on one side. Also I would like to think that Cannondale, who sells the "lefty for all" conversion kit, has too much to loose if it's unsafe. That doesn't mean its true.
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29er / Re: Steven-iam's DengFu M06 Build
« on: June 19, 2017, 10:09:44 AM »Can you speak to pedaling efficiency and pedal bob?...How would you compare the two?
There is a "bob" when climbing standing up and really pushing it, perhaps a little more than my old Scalpel. For me, climbing is easier (especially if its rocky.) because of the short chainstay and the new rear Monarch XX shock. I would guess the rear shock has the most affect on bobing.
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29er / Re: Steven-iam's DengFu M06 Build
« on: June 16, 2017, 09:42:25 AM »
Update:
It's been a couple of months, so I thought i'd give an update on how the bike is working out.
The Deng-Fu M06 frame is definitely not as stiff as a super high end name brand made in Taiwan. The Toray rating of the DengFu is 800 compared to Cannondale's "BallisTec Hi-MOD" which I think has a Toray rating of 1100. But I happen to like the flex, riding is way more comfy and quiet.
Also i'm riding about a pound heavier than my old Cannondale. But this could be because of the "Lefty for All" conversion kit, cranks and the new wider rim wheels.
The frame is holding up perfectly, I love the geometry, if you get a little too tired to hop over obstacles, the bike has no problem absorbing them.
So far I wouldn't trade this frame for anything else. I love it.
Here's the latest pic with my new wheels and chain.
Happy Trails.
It's been a couple of months, so I thought i'd give an update on how the bike is working out.
The Deng-Fu M06 frame is definitely not as stiff as a super high end name brand made in Taiwan. The Toray rating of the DengFu is 800 compared to Cannondale's "BallisTec Hi-MOD" which I think has a Toray rating of 1100. But I happen to like the flex, riding is way more comfy and quiet.
Also i'm riding about a pound heavier than my old Cannondale. But this could be because of the "Lefty for All" conversion kit, cranks and the new wider rim wheels.
The frame is holding up perfectly, I love the geometry, if you get a little too tired to hop over obstacles, the bike has no problem absorbing them.
So far I wouldn't trade this frame for anything else. I love it.
Here's the latest pic with my new wheels and chain.
Happy Trails.