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29er / Re: Hongfu - FM058 Custom - 9,380kg
« on: April 30, 2018, 10:15:17 AM »
Nice. 

It sounds like you know how to deal with those kind of vendors.
Yep and when they are unable to answer I walk away as many times there is a language barrier.  This is the 7th frame I build.
Also learn to lower my expectations :P

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29er / Re: FM 158 and 258
« on: April 30, 2018, 09:18:48 AM »
In the topic of this frame.

Have you guys noticed that the Brake Caliper sometimes is mounted in the chainstay and sometimes in the seatstay ?

I have an M06 and it's mounted in the chainstay because the seatstay flexes with the wheel travel. If no shock is installed the frame still stays erect, the seatstay acts like a spring.

Wondering if anyone has a 258 in hands and can check if there is flex or smooth operation in the whole travel.



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29er / Re: Leadnovo bikes
« on: April 29, 2018, 09:27:35 PM »
if you already have the wheels should be ok, however all new wheels are boost, don't think I would invest on non-boost frames.

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29er / Re: Hongfu - FM058 Custom - 9,380kg
« on: April 29, 2018, 07:54:17 PM »
I did triple check it, and got the cad drawings to backup. Even asked the seller 3 different ways.
The frame is the same as a brand frame out there and on their website it shows the brake mounted in the chainstay.

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29er / Re: Hongfu - FM058 Custom - 9,380kg
« on: April 29, 2018, 03:44:31 PM »
About to pull the trigger on the same frame with the Boost specs from pro-mance. I could only find pro-mance and Yishun making this in Boost with the brake mounted in the chainstay.

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29er / Re: FM 158 and 258
« on: April 29, 2018, 01:22:06 PM »
C'mon man, you are sounding like you are joining in on the narrow mindedness.  I.e. Just because something works for you, on the kind of riding/terrain you do, doesn't mean someone else doing the opposite thing is wrong.

Is this directed at me? I wasn’t trying to argue with anyone just pointing out the fact that it would be a deal breaker for a lot of people. I totally understand that people like to ride different styles of bike, that’s why I have 3 mountain bikes. But the comments of “get a trail bike if you want a dropper” and “I will run a dropper when the pro’s do” seems a bit off. My question asking if he was chasing podiums was not meant to be sarcastic. I was truly asking to see if they were looking for a dedicated race bike.

Nah man, the comment was for me. I was being a douche with my comments against dropper. I needed to go for a ride to get more open minded. Did it and I'm now happy with droppers. :P Totally agree, what works for me may not work for others.

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29er / Re: FM 158 and 258
« on: April 27, 2018, 09:51:34 PM »
Wondering if anyone has a 258 in hands and can check if there is flex or smooth operation in the whole travel.

It has to flex, because there is no pivot close or in the real axle.

So do you think the brake caliper mounted on the seatstay might be an issue ?  This has kept me awake at night for a few days.

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29er / Re: New Hong Fu FM058 build
« on: April 27, 2018, 04:11:18 PM »
The 11g seatpost clamp arrived.  Bike now at 10.13kg.  That's very close to my 26er (10.11).  That's where it'll stay for a while.  Gonna put off the seatpost purchase, as I am not yet convinced that I need a setback post.  The carbon railled saddle can stay on the old bike for a while longer.

I got a little prep to do for a longer event (~3-3.5hrs)  in 9 days' time.  I got some of those kcnc clamps so I can run a bottle cage on the seatpost - going to try a no-stop strategy with no hydration backpack

Is it going to be a flat terrain ? Carrying the extra weight uphill might be a bigger challenge when comparing to a quick refill stop or bottle exchange.

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29er / Re: FM 158 and 258
« on: April 27, 2018, 12:32:33 PM »
In the topic of this frame.

Have you guys noticed that the Brake Caliper sometimes is mounted in the chainstay and sometimes in the seatstay ?

I have an M06 and it's mounted in the chainstay because the seatstay flexes with the wheel travel. If no shock is installed the frame still stays erect, the seatstay acts like a spring.

Wondering if anyone has a 258 in hands and can check if there is flex or smooth operation in the whole travel.



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29er / Re: FM 158 and 258
« on: April 27, 2018, 12:08:15 PM »

Haven't seen any XC racer using droppers and winning races.
If you want a dropper why not go for a trail bike or all mountain ?

Didn't Annika Langvad run one in the Cape epic?  Maybe not on all the stages, but I did see it on one of those "what the pros ride" kind of articles.  I think she ended up winning by about an hour.

Julien Absalon, while not quite winning, has been known to often run a dropper post in recent world cups.  Have you heard of him?


On Absalon, perhaps that's the reason he didn't win. He is tall enough not to need one and carrying the extra weight would probably moved him back. Any proof reference ?

On a stage race a pro can use for a single stage if they already have a long advantage based on sponsor reque$t.

Show me one of top 3 podium on World Cup XC race using dropper and you will change me.

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29er / Re: FM 158 and 258
« on: April 26, 2018, 09:58:32 AM »

I used to be in the same mindset of "droppers are for big travel bikes" until I started using one. I put one on my trail bike last year and now I'm wanting one on my SS and my 29+ bike. To me it just seems odd that they would make it relatively modern in it's geometry but then limit it to not having a dropper. I know that I'm not alone in scratching this frame off of the list if that's the case.

I understand your point. Different Riders, different needs.
My answer on the bend is that If you make a very short chainstay you end up having to bend the seat tube to allow for tire clearance. I have even seen bikes with bend seatpost matching a bent seat tube.
We can't have it all. Big tires, big chainrings, dropper and short chainstay. I will trade a short chainstay and room for a 2.3 tire for no dropper :P

The issue is that the Chinese have no R&D so they just clone the frames and we end up with fewer choices, just a bunch of the same.


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29er / Re: Hongfu - FM058 Custom - 9,380kg
« on: April 25, 2018, 09:27:00 PM »
I ordered the 19" boost T800 M9007 frame from Pro-Mance on request (see http://www.pro-mance.com/product-390-16797-46557.html). Neither Hongfu or TanTan were willing to do an ultralight version, and Pro-Mance was both willing to special-order a T800 version and work out a much better price.

I'm expecting about 150g lighter, but I did have it painted so probably around 1850g for the frame.  I'm building with the goal of staying under 20 pounds, so this little bit might make that possible.

You can probably negotiate with Pro-Mance any day for in-stock T700 frames to match the quote Hongfu is giving on their "special" pricing with a 3-month wait. In retrospect, I would get an in-stock frame, as I was not happy waiting for three months without any bike. I had to sell my other bike to afford this one.

Have you received your frame yet ? Trying to get a size 15.5 for my wife with the brake caliper mounted in the chainstay.

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29er / Re: 258 vs 036
« on: April 25, 2018, 09:03:42 PM »
I haven't seen the geometry from XMI however the frame seems identical to first gen 058. I really disagree with the brake cable routing through the top tube and the brake caliper mounted in the seatsay as oposite of chainstay.

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29er / Re: FM 158 and 258
« on: April 25, 2018, 08:57:12 PM »
Big confusion on this frames. Some drawings show boost, others don't. For me the brake mount should be on the chainstay not in the seatstay. I'm trying to find who has this frame with the chainstay brake mount in 15.5 and order one.

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29er / Re: FM 158 and 258
« on: April 25, 2018, 08:55:44 PM »
On the 158 frame, it looks like there is a bend in the seat tube right at the linkage pivot. If that's the case, that could limit dropper applications. I realize that this is an XC frame but droppers are still nice to have.
Haven't seen any XC racer using droppers and winning races.
If you want a dropper why not go for a trail bike or all mountain ?

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