Author Topic: Bitex Hub Failure - Being Replaced Under Warranty  (Read 6329 times)

Carbon_Dude

Bitex Hub Failure - Being Replaced Under Warranty
« on: April 05, 2015, 11:28:01 AM »
So I've been having an issue with my IP-057 with the drivetrain popping after an upshift or downshift.  At first I kept thinking it was a problem with the rear derailleur or the chain.  I looked things over, removed the rear wheel, removed the XX1 cassette, re-greased everything, re-assemble and re-torqued everything and it was still making the same noise.  I continued looking and found the dropouts were loose, removed the screws, applied some blue Loctite to the screws and tightened them up.  Still no improvement but I'm glad I found the loose drop out screws and took care of them before a more major problem occurred.

Finally, I swapped the rear wheels on my IP-057 and IP-036, the popping then started in the IP-036 so now I knew it was an issue with the rear wheel.  So I removed the rear wheel and the cassette once more.  I then disassembled the rear hub and found my problem:



Notice the broken hub main body at the base of the pawls and the chunk of metal on the table next to the hub. 

I have been a fan of the Bitex hub due to the low cost and 6 pawl design.  The hub really has 6 twin pawls, as there are twelve pawls in the assembly.  Also the hub has 48T external tooth hub which gives it 7.5 deg of engagement.  The 6 pawls giving more distribution of torque over a 3 pawl design.

These hubs have at least a 1 year warranty and I have only had them since about June of 2014 so I decided to contact BiTex directly.  Being the weekend I did not expect a reply but amazingly enough, May at Bitex sent me an email saying they would be happy to ship me a replacement hub from Taiwan at no cost.  However, they said they have gone to a 54T design (6.67 deg of engagement) and I asked them if the could send the older design as I don't want to rebuild the wheel.  Perfectly happy with the 48T hub and I see no need to spend money to rebuild the wheel.  Bitex responded saying they would ship a 48T hub. 

I went ahead and cleaned and reassembled the hub, now that the loose chunk of metal is gone the hub is working fine even though the hub body is in poor condition.  I won't ride the bike on the trails until I get everything fixed but in the meantime it is rideable.  If Bitex was not going to warranty the hub, I had found a replacement Freehub for $35 on Ebay.  I might still order it for a spare, just in case.

If I were to purchase another wheelset, I'd seriously consider going with DT Swiss hubs as they appear to be a superior design with their Star-Rachet pawl design.  It's much simpler and would not be prone to breaking apart like this BiTex hub did.  However, a DT Swiss hub as about twice as expensive to start with.  HopePro Evo 2 hubs are also popular, they have a 4 pawl design and 40T (9 deg) of engagement and are about 30g heavier but are cheaper than the DT Swiss hubs and I would guess more robust.


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davidriddel

Re: Bitex Hub Failure - Being Replaced Under Warranty
« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2015, 09:02:35 AM »
How many miles on those wheels, and what type o riding? Sand and gritty terrain?

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Carbon_Dude

Re: Bitex Hub Failure - Being Replaced Under Warranty
« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2015, 09:27:27 AM »
I ordered this wheelset back in April of last year and I didn't ride for three months while my leg injury was healing.  So I would say there is 9 months of light usage on these wheels.  Maybe only 400-500 miles of usage on clay and sand trails, not much mud as the trails close if they are muddy.  When I disassembled the freehub, I didn't see much dirt or grime inside, just fragments of metal.

Which also reminds me, I will need to buy some lightweight hub grease.

To have as a spare, I also ordered a replacement freehub off eBay.  Only $35 from California as I have no clue when the warranty replacement hub will arrive from Taiwan.
« Last Edit: April 06, 2015, 10:14:03 AM by Carbon_Dude »
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2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
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outriding9800

Re: Bitex Hub Failure - Being Replaced Under Warranty
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2015, 10:27:20 PM »
I have a set of bikehubstore hubs which look alot like bitex hubs.. after a half a season on mine they are showing quite a bit of wear on them.

I think my next set is going to be dt swiss 350.

This is what i use for hub oil..

http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=133&pcid=4

No problems yet..

Carbon_Dude

Re: Bitex Hub Failure - Being Replaced Under Warranty
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2015, 07:39:30 AM »
Bike Hub Store is shown as the US distributor for Bitex so I would say your hubs are most likely also made by Bitex.  I've read online that many people use a heavy weight gear oil in their rear hubs. 

My Bitex hub had the factory grease when it failed.  I'm sure gear oil works fine, however, I ordered some DT Swiss Ratchet grease, which is a very lightweight (probably lithium based) grease.  I've used PolyLube grease in my DT Swiss hub and it's too thick, instead I will use the correct grease for the DT Swiss hub and should work fine when I rebuild the Bitex hub.

2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

Carbon_Dude

Re: Bitex Hub Failure - Being Replaced Under Warranty
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2015, 04:29:30 PM »
I received the warranty replacement free hub yesterday, just one week from when I let the manufacturer know mine had broken apart.  Installed and went for a ride today, everything is back to working perfectly.  Not happy I had a problem but am impressed with their customer service.
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

cmh

Re: Bitex Hub Failure - Being Replaced Under Warranty
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2015, 05:58:05 PM »
My Bitex hub had the factory grease when it failed.  I'm sure gear oil works fine, however, I ordered some DT Swiss Ratchet grease, which is a very lightweight (probably lithium based) grease.  I've used PolyLube grease in my DT Swiss hub and it's too thick, instead I will use the correct grease for the DT Swiss hub and should work fine when I rebuild the Bitex hub.

Slick Honey is another grease which is really good for this application, as well as a bunch of others. Seems kinda like a slightly thinner Vaseline (petroleum jelly) but works far better as a grease. Also excellent for rubber seals on suspension parts, shocks and suck.