Miraclecycling vs Yoeleo prices

[Tines]

Geometry looks very similar to the r11, the seatpost cover aswell.
One difference is the tapered head tube.
(Talking about the miracle 025)
Has anyone heard anything of the frame? Looks quite interesting.

[StiffWeenies]

Miracle recently acquired an old Triathlon brand called Falco

they may be taking direct to consumer a bit more seriously now

[Tines]

Ive sent them an email two weeks ago about one of their frames. Haven’t received an answer so took my business to speeder.
If they cannot react to business inquiries I don’t have any trust regarding potential warranty claims.

[abdbeg]

Recently asked Mira Cycling is the frames they are making is the same as Yoeleo, well, answer is yes, i think, but for older models, for the new models Yoeleo have partnership with different factory.

[Spain80]

You can’t get a straight answer from these people, I asked Mira and they said the same as the thread, last week I asked an ex Yoeleo employee who now sells a different brand, I asked her the question and she said Yoeleo make their own frames and wheels .

[Serge_K]

You can’t get a straight answer from these people, I asked Mira and they said the same as the thread, last week I asked an ex Yoeleo employee who now sells a different brand, I asked her the question and she said Yoeleo make their own frames and wheels .

It's a delicate topic. There may be NDAs involved, but even without that, you may not want to disclose that you sell for X what your customer brand sells for 2X. For obvious reasons...
I have first hand knowledge of a certain factory working with certain brands but been asked not to talk about it publicly. If you go to trade shows typically people are more open than by email. Again, for obvious reasons.
So, it's delicate.