Author Topic: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?  (Read 39963 times)

Carbon_Dude

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #75 on: June 22, 2016, 07:39:46 PM »
Makes me wonder just how wide of a tire I could even run on my 29" wheels with the -057.  The Vittoria Saguaros claim they are 2.4" but measure in at 2.25".  Maybe a 2.6" tire would fit, I'd say the -057 has about 2.75" of clearance.  I've measured it but don't remember the exact number.
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

Patrick C.

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #76 on: June 22, 2016, 09:07:49 PM »
Mine is 70 mm or 2.76", so I'd say your memory is pretty good.




or mine is bad too.

activ3

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #77 on: July 11, 2016, 08:42:05 PM »
Has anyone tried the 2.8 Rocket Rons? I'm going to use a 29mm ID rim with a 2.8" tire on my M062 frame but I'm liking the weight of the Rocket Ron for the rear... just want to make sure it'll fit!

SportingGoods

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #78 on: July 22, 2016, 03:08:31 AM »
I haven't tried it. I will, when my WTB will be worn out and I get my new frame. Surely a very good rear tire.

I have a Nobby Nic 2.8 at the front. Spot on 2.8"-70mm. I'd expect the Rocket Ron to be very close.

Patrick C.

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #79 on: August 09, 2016, 07:45:04 PM »
Past due for an update on this one- I was pretty bummed that the 2.8 tires wouldn't fit the rear on my -057, and decided to try and find the biggest tires that would fit.  On the MTBR plus bike forum there is a thread on 27.5+ tires that has a spreadsheet of estimated tire widths on different rim sizes by Craigsj  (http://forums.mtbr.com/26-27-5-29-plus-bikes/27-5-tires-931412-post12516812.html#post12516812) that gives an idea of how different tires will compare based on the bead-to-bead measurement, or how wide the tire casing is.  My measurements for the b2b width and mounted tire width are all wider than his measurements/calculated values, but it does give a good idea for ranking the tires.   

His formula predicts that the 2.8 Trailblazer should be 64 mm wide on a 34 mm internal rim, whereas I measure closer to 68 mm wide on mine.  Pretty close, but since the chainstays on the -057 are 70 mm it makes the difference between "enough clearance" and "rubbing through the paint".  The next smaller tires by b2b measurement are the 2.4" Geax Goma, WTB Trail Boss, and Continental Trail King.  I decided to go with the Trail King, and so far it works well.  I got a wider b2b measurement, but the actual width of the mounted tire came in just under 64 mm, just 2 mm above his calculated width.  This gives me just over 3 mm (1/8") clearance on each side.  I'll still need to keep an eye on it (and not ride in thick mud, but I wouldn't do that on trails here anyway), but this is probably the fattest tire that will fit.  My 29" rims are 25 mm internal, and Continental X-King 2.4's on them measure 58 mm wide (3 mm wider than Craigsj's prediction).

The bottom bracket clearance is about 1/2" less with the 27.5 wheels than with the 29" wheels- dropped from about 10.75" (27.3 cm) to 10.25" (26 cm).  I do get more pedal strikes, but that will probably change as I get used to the lower clearance.  The feel is almost the same as with the 2.8 tire on the rear- it certainly is smoother than my 29" wheels, due to the lower pressure.  My 29" rims are 25 mm internal, and Continental X-King 2.4's on them measure 58 mm wide.



Tough to see, but there is clearance





No problem going up this if you pedal at the right time :)


Summary of my numbers-
29" wheels-
25 mm internal, X-king 2.4- 58 mm wide

27.5" wheels-
34 mm internal, Nobby Nic 2.8- 69 mm wide
34 mm internal, Trailblazer 2.8- 68 mm wide
34 mm internal, TrailKing 2.4- 64 mm wide




Carbon_Dude

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #80 on: August 09, 2016, 07:59:43 PM »
Thanks for the update Patrick.  Even though I don't have my Chiner anymore, it's still interesting to hear about your bike.  As you know, I am definitely a fan of wider tires.
2019 Stumpjumper Expert 29/27.5+
2017 Santa Cruz Stigmata
2017 Trek Stache 9.8 (29+)
2016 Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Carbon Comp 6Fattie (27.5+) (Sold)
2016 Trek Stache 9 (29+) w/upgrades (Sold)
2014 -036 Full Suspension Chiner (Sold)
2013 -057 Hardtail Carbon Chiner (Sold)
Atlanta, GA

cmh

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #81 on: August 10, 2016, 08:01:28 AM »
Patrick, that last photo is one of the coolest trail-side photos I've seen. Damn nice work using the rock to prop up the bike. I really enjoy that photo.

Patrick C.

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #82 on: August 10, 2016, 12:14:11 PM »
Thanks!  My wife is a photographer, I'll have to ask how many compliments she got on her pictures today :)

Like most photos, it still doesn't capture the whole scene.  It doesn't really show the contour of the rock- in the foreground it is an easy roll up, but the other side (behind the bike) is a really good step.  Mother Nature makes the best alt lines.

Patrick C.

Re: Can 29er MTB frame assembled with 27.5er wheels?
« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2016, 07:21:02 PM »
One more from today.  I guess I should put these in the Recent Ride thread...
This one is a great rock.  The other side is an easy slope with no step, so anyone can ride up it.  You can turn and roll off the side, or wheelie off if you're up to it.  The smaller rock in front doesn't connect, so you can't really roll down this side.