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mezastel

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #30 on: April 15, 2017, 05:08:30 PM »
Speaking of this frame, how does one adapt a typical bottom bracket to BB92? For example, say I go for a Shimano 1x11 groupset - the XT MT800 bb states that is it compatible with 68mm and 73mm shell - what would you need to do to get it to work with BB92?

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #31 on: April 15, 2017, 06:47:08 PM »
Speaking of this frame, how does one adapt a typical bottom bracket to BB92? For example, say I go for a Shimano 1x11 groupset - the XT MT800 bb states that is it compatible with 68mm and 73mm shell - what would you need to do to get it to work with BB92?

It's super simple, just get one of these.
http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-SM-BB92-41B-Bottom-Bracket

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #32 on: April 15, 2017, 08:10:31 PM »
Here's some pics of the frame and my rims. The frame is being painted pantone 299c blue and the rims are pantone 809c yellow/green. The rims look really yellow in the pics and less of neon yellow/green I was hoping for, but whatever, not a super big deal to me. I'll have a decal set made at my local vinyl wrap place and match it to the yellow. I ended up going with a Manitou Magnum Pro 140mm 27.5 plus fork and a Manitou McLeod rear shock. Cockpit is all Deity black and blue. Sram X0 rear derailleur, X1 shifter, Sram Descendant 30T 170mm gxp boost crank, Sram 1175 10-42 cassette, Sram Team GXP BB, Reverb Stealth 125mm dropper. Rims are the down hill 29's with DTSwiss 350/36T upgraded hubs. Tires are Minion SS 2.3 rear and DHF 2.5 front. I'll take my own pics when the frame shows up.


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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #33 on: April 16, 2017, 03:56:00 AM »
Speaking of this frame, how does one adapt a typical bottom bracket to BB92? For example, say I go for a Shimano 1x11 groupset - the XT MT800 bb states that is it compatible with 68mm and 73mm shell - what would you need to do to get it to work with BB92?

It's super simple, just get one of these.
http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-SM-BB92-41B-Bottom-Bracket

This appears to be the XTR variety. I did find a Shimano XT BB though, hopefully that's the right one.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #34 on: April 16, 2017, 07:28:45 AM »
Speaking of this frame, how does one adapt a typical bottom bracket to BB92? For example, say I go for a Shimano 1x11 groupset - the XT MT800 bb states that is it compatible with 68mm and 73mm shell - what would you need to do to get it to work with BB92?

It's super simple, just get one of these.
http://www.jensonusa.com/Shimano-SM-BB92-41B-Bottom-Bracket

This appears to be the XTR variety. I did find a Shimano XT BB though, hopefully that's the right one.

XTR, XT, SLX, or Deore, they will all work. I just searched for Shimano BB92 and that was one of the first that came up. And it was under $30.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #35 on: April 17, 2017, 07:59:50 AM »
Painted frame...

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2017, 04:18:17 PM »
Very nice color!

Who painted it for you?

How much?


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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2017, 05:14:54 PM »
And all sizes frames in UD matt first batch production can be availble in 20 days, we still have some frames left and they can be preordered now

I don't need one, unfortunately. But I do know some that are in the market. I wish I could get one of them to buy one so I can try it for myself.

And for those that are curious to what bike it is similar too, I think I found one that is VERY close, the Santa Cruz Hightower. There may be others though. The difference is that this has 122mm of travel vs 135mm, and the bottom bracket is 6mm lower on the CS-FS27.

This bike looks great, but aside from portions of its geometry, is nothing like the Hightower.

Think long travel XC vs. Enduro sled.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #38 on: April 17, 2017, 08:12:12 PM »
Very nice color!

Who painted it for you?

How much?


Regards.

Peter painted it for me for a for bucks. I forget how much but it was less than $100. I'll have specifics in my build thread when i start it.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #39 on: April 17, 2017, 08:14:18 PM »
And all sizes frames in UD matt first batch production can be availble in 20 days, we still have some frames left and they can be preordered now

I don't need one, unfortunately. But I do know some that are in the market. I wish I could get one of them to buy one so I can try it for myself.

And for those that are curious to what bike it is similar too, I think I found one that is VERY close, the Santa Cruz Hightower. There may be others though. The difference is that this has 122mm of travel vs 135mm, and the bottom bracket is 6mm lower on the CS-FS27.

This bike looks great, but aside from portions of its geometry, is nothing like the Hightower.

Think long travel XC vs. Enduro sled.

Scott copied this frame and called it the Spark 700 Plus. Geometry is the same.  ;)

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #40 on: April 18, 2017, 09:01:02 PM »
That's a cool color. Reminds me of the Nogarro Blue on the Audi S4. Looking forward to seeing it built up.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2017, 09:49:37 AM »
And all sizes frames in UD matt first batch production can be availble in 20 days, we still have some frames left and they can be preordered now

I don't need one, unfortunately. But I do know some that are in the market. I wish I could get one of them to buy one so I can try it for myself.

And for those that are curious to what bike it is similar too, I think I found one that is VERY close, the Santa Cruz Hightower. There may be others though. The difference is that this has 122mm of travel vs 135mm, and the bottom bracket is 6mm lower on the CS-FS27.

This bike looks great, but aside from portions of its geometry, is nothing like the Hightower.

Think long travel XC vs. Enduro sled.

Scott copied this frame and called it the Spark 700 Plus. Geometry is the same.  ;)

Sit on a Spark, a 130mm/122mm bike, and a Hightower, a 150/135mm bike, and tell me they are the same. Then put power into the pedals. Completely different.

Numbers on a table are one thing, but the actual riding position, when shocks are set up properly, is very different. They share similar geometry, but ride nothing alike.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2017, 06:09:38 PM »
Numbers on a table are one thing, but the actual riding position, when shocks are set up properly, is very different. They share similar geometry, but ride nothing alike.

I don't disagree with the fact that they could ride completely different. But with new frames straight from china, geo numbers is all we have to go on. But out of curiosity, have you ridden all 3? If not, it's not a fair judgement to say that they ride nothing alike.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2017, 06:43:50 PM »
Numbers on a table are one thing, but the actual riding position, when shocks are set up properly, is very different. They share similar geometry, but ride nothing alike.

I don't disagree with the fact that they could ride completely different. But with new frames straight from china, geo numbers is all we have to go on. But out of curiosity, have you ridden all 3? If not, it's not a fair judgement to say that they ride nothing alike.
If you want to know how this frame feels, there is an easy solution.  Go to lbs. Ask for Spark 700 plus series. Test ride. It is the same. I promise. Suspension tune may play into it a little but it is a spark 700 plus. Its a fun bike.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2017, 07:38:08 PM »
Just so we're clear, I'm not bagging on the Scott or the FS-27. I'm probably going to buy one soon.

If anything, I'm defending the Scott from being compared to a SC. Had two SCs. Big, fat waste of money.

I'd love a 130/122mm FS to compliment my Yeti ASRc. I have two frames from Peter already, four Chinese carbon in total. Been very pleased.
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