Author Topic: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27  (Read 12419 times)

McFaker

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #60 on: July 22, 2017, 12:37:03 AM »
So Peter from carbon speed says the cable routing has been fixed on the cs-fs27, but didn't say anything about the caliper mounting. He quoted $740 including fees and shipping for the frame with headset and axle.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #61 on: July 23, 2017, 09:46:39 PM »
So Peter from carbon speed says the cable routing has been fixed on the cs-fs27, but didn't say anything about the caliper mounting. He quoted $740 including fees and shipping for the frame with headset and axle.
Did he say what the actual change is?  Does the brake now run through the down tube?

McFaker

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #62 on: July 24, 2017, 10:12:47 AM »
Email from Peter: "Current rear cable routing is from top tube through seat tube. Do you want us to change the rear cable routing from down tube through chainstay ?"

My reply: "Yes routing the rear break through the down tube to chainstay would be a much better designs. I would purchase the frame with this change. I know a lot of the people on chinertown agree this is a necessary change. Please let me know if it is possible. thank you. "

Peters reply: "Yes, it is possible, what size do you need the frame in ?"


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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #64 on: July 31, 2017, 08:47:24 PM »
Email from Peter: "Current rear cable routing is from top tube through seat tube. Do you want us to change the rear cable routing from down tube through chainstay ?"

My reply: "Yes routing the rear break through the down tube to chainstay would be a much better designs. I would purchase the frame with this change. I know a lot of the people on chinertown agree this is a necessary change. Please let me know if it is possible. thank you. "

Peters reply: "Yes, it is possible, what size do you need the frame in ?"

Any pictures of the new cable routing? I would much prefer the rear brake to run through the downtube and chainsaw similar to the derailleur.



« Last Edit: July 31, 2017, 08:50:06 PM by foozball26 »

GuitsBoy

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #65 on: August 10, 2017, 02:28:49 PM »
I'm taking the plunge with a build of my own.  Officially ordered a stock 19" FS27 from Peter last night.  Excited to see how the quality compares to the Flyxii hardtail I built a couple years back.  This will be my first foray into full suspension, so feel free to slap me around if anything looks amiss.

Anyway, Ill be replacing the On-One parkwood frame I am currently riding, and Ill most likely be adding a [temporary] X-fusion O2 RCX shock for the time being, at least until the 165x45 shocks become available.

Here's the build spec:

CarbonSpeed FS27
X-Fusion O2 RCX shock
X-Fusion Sweep with Roughcut HLR damper
Nextie Jungle Fox II 52mm (i45) carbon rims on BHS/Bitex Hubs (3mm spacers for 142 to 148)
Nobby Nic 2.8 front and rear
SRAM x1 crankset with Absolute Black oval 28T
SRAM X01 11 Speed shifter, GX derailleur
e*thirteen 9-46t TRSr cassette (511% range)
Shimano m785 xt brakes
Raceface SixC bars, 35mm stem, nashbar carbon post and FR1 saddle, xpedo spry pedals

My current hardtail is right around 26 lbs flat.  I expect the new FS rig to be right around the same.   I ride mostly tight twisty xc singletrack with the occasional rooty climb or descent, and a 2-3 foot drop here and there.  I have no problem getting behind the seat, so no dropper for now.

Not counting the cost of the old frame, this seems like it should be a lot of bike for having only $3K into it.  Any suggestions or tweaks?
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foozball26

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #66 on: August 11, 2017, 05:45:43 PM »
You can get the 165x45mm shock from a few places now, but it is 165x42.5 for the Giant Anthem. Giant just reduced the travel from 45mm to 42.5mm

It's around $330, search for 165x42.5mm

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RockShox-Deluxe-RT3-Rear-Shock-165x42-5mm-Trunnion-2017-Giant-Anthem-/182635025198


Peter sent me some pictures of the new cable routing, which looks much better than the top tube style.

Images:
http://imgur.com/a/oUIdF

GuitsBoy

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #67 on: August 11, 2017, 05:58:28 PM »
That does look good. Are they all being shipped with the new routing?

EDIT:  Spoke with Peter, and yes, they are all being shipped with routing through the bottom bracket now.  Good work everybody who helped to convince him to make the design change.  Thanks.

As for the shock, the RS RT3 doesnt look like a trunnion shock to me, although I guess it has integrated spacers making it the full body width, so myabe that counts.  The pictures Ive seen of proper trunnion shocks show the mounting holes going into the top of the air can / body of the shock.  Not just a wider mounting tab like the standard shocks have.  Either way, the point is moot from my perspective.  I'm anit-rockshox to the bone.  Ill keep waiting for more options.  Thanks for the info though.
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McFaker

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #68 on: August 12, 2017, 04:09:46 PM »
That super delux is as good a shock as any for this bike. It'll also be a couple bills less than anything else.

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #69 on: August 12, 2017, 04:52:39 PM »
That does look good. Are they all being shipped with the new routing?

EDIT:  Spoke with Peter, and yes, they are all being shipped with routing through the bottom bracket now.  Good work everybody who helped to convince him to make the design change.  Thanks.

As for the shock, the RS RT3 doesnt look like a trunnion shock to me, although I guess it has integrated spacers making it the full body width, so myabe that counts.  The pictures Ive seen of proper trunnion shocks show the mounting holes going into the top of the air can / body of the shock.  Not just a wider mounting tab like the standard shocks have.  Either way, the point is moot from my perspective.  I'm anit-rockshox to the bone.  Ill keep waiting for more options.  Thanks for the info though.
The picture shown isn't nessasary the one you are buying.
Go look at a 2017 Anthem look how it is mounted that is what you are buying.

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GuitsBoy

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #71 on: August 12, 2017, 05:37:48 PM »
The picture shown isn't nessasary the one you are buying.
Go look at a 2017 Anthem look how it is mounted that is what you are buying.
Yes, I did look up the anthem after posting, and youre probably right.  Different size shocks probably have different mount points but are all considered trunnion.   Searching that model shock all showed pics of the mounts past the body, but then anthem clearly shows the mounts ON the shock body.

Anyway, I didn't mean to say it was a poor shock in any way, its just the RockShox as a company is just not for me.  I love sram, but have always disliked RS forks, so I'm reluctant to try their shocks as well.  But in no way did I mean to imply it was a bad shock in any way.  I'm just going to wait for the size/technology to trickle down to the point end of season deals start popping up on XF or Fox shocks.

McFaker

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #72 on: August 13, 2017, 06:02:20 PM »
The trunnion design is singular universal mount, 50mm x 8mm I believe. The pic on the shock is just wrong. It happens a lot.

Does anyone know of another option besides the not yet available fox Dps?

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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #73 on: August 26, 2017, 02:04:16 PM »
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Re: Carbon Speed 2017 27.5 plus FS frame CS-FS27
« Reply #74 on: August 26, 2017, 08:15:46 PM »