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charlesrg

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Re: Charles M06 XL build
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2017, 09:26:07 PM »
The 036 is often speced at 110-120mm of rear travel. Do you feel any difference with the 100mm of the M06 or it seems to have the same amount of travel as the 036?
My IP036 was running on 100mm. The travel on this is the same. The bike is lower to the ground but travel is same. The big difference here is climbing and reduced the rear wheel play.

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Re: Charles M06 XL build
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2017, 09:43:19 AM »
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By the way, I'm running 2.35 tires on it without rub, I think that's as wide as it would take.

Are the Ikon 2.35 true to size?

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My IP036 was running on 100mm. The travel on this is the same. The bike is lower to the ground but travel is same. The big difference here is climbing and reduced the rear wheel play.

I'm running X-King 2.4 on my 036 (they are true to size) and sometimes when I corner really hard the rear end flex so much that the tire rub on the chainstays. So if the rear of the M06 is stiffer, it's good news.

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Re: Charles M06 XL build
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2017, 02:30:21 PM »
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By the way, I'm running 2.35 tires on it without rub, I think that's as wide as it would take.

Are the Ikon 2.35 true to size?

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My IP036 was running on 100mm. The travel on this is the same. The bike is lower to the ground but travel is same. The big difference here is climbing and reduced the rear wheel play.


I'm running X-King 2.4 on my 036 (they are true to size) and sometimes when I corner really hard the rear end flex so much that the tire rub on the chainstays. So if the rear of the M06 is stiffer, it's good news.

I think the 036 has larger tire clearance than M06. I will measure take the measurements to ensure it's accurate. I was running 2.35 on the 036 as well with no rub. Keep in mind wheel width also plays a big role on how wide the tire will set.
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Re: Charles M06 XL build
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2017, 10:44:10 PM »
By the way, while ordering I asked Melody about the bottle cage, and she said not to worry. So I tried to fit a bottle in and the results are in the pictures.
This are my smallest bottles. So no chance using this with a top loader bottle cage. They do work on a side loader but only the small bottles.
I think the bottle cage holes should have been made lower. Sometimes this kinda of failure makes me wonder if they actually ridden any of this frames before started selling.

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« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2017, 02:58:24 AM »
I think the bottle cage holes should have been made lower.
Definitely this, my backwards mounted shock barely clears the bottle. Maybe you should try lower sitting cage or a zip tie, like what Steven did.

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« Reply #20 on: May 13, 2017, 11:47:35 AM »
I think the bottle cage holes should have been made lower.
Definitely this, my backwards mounted shock barely clears the bottle. Maybe you should try lower sitting cage or a zip tie, like what Steven did.
My solution was to put a side loader bottle cage. That allows for small bottles to fit.

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Re: Charles M06 XL build
« Reply #21 on: June 12, 2017, 04:02:38 PM »
Did my third race on the bike. Issues with pedals hitting the ground on turns are starting to become an issue. In my last race twice I ended up unclipped on a turn due to pedal hitting rocks.
The bobbing of the frame is also becoming a bit of a pain. I'm planning on recording it with a gopro to see how much it interferes during climbs.

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Re: Charles M06 XL build
« Reply #22 on: June 13, 2017, 01:05:35 PM »
Do you think the bobbing would still be an issue with a platform mode on the rear shock instead of your fully open / locked out one?

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Re: Charles M06 XL build
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2017, 01:31:17 PM »
Do you think the bobbing would still be an issue with a platform mode on the rear shock instead of your fully open / locked out one?
I'm not sure what do you mean with platform mode. Rockshox has Lock/Unlock and the lock is not 100% lock. I guess if I had a fox shock I could put on 100% lock that would help. However I think bobbing has to do with the pivot points and geometry of the articulations. Design also influences anti-squat and anti-rise.

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Re: Charles M06 XL build
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2017, 10:44:51 AM »
With platform mode, I mean the "Trail" mode of fox, the "Pedal" mode of Rockshox or "Drive" mode of DT Swiss to name a few. The drive mode of my DT Swiss X313 shock reduce bobing on my IP-036 to nearly zero.