Ican P8 full suspension build

[R_Pierce]

Pierce, I'm afraid I'm not. Bad luck there.

Melody came back to me and said If I made payment they could manufacture in 10 days time. So I'm in luck.
Have any of you done a transfer to their Western Union account?  Or have all payed by PayPal.
Getting quite excited now.

Can you see any problems If I asked them to disassemble the frame so they can use a smaller box? How complicated are the small parts?

Regards

use paypal.  and i doubt they will break it down.

[lRaphl]

Yes, use Paypal. Paypal fees are your only insurance in case something goes wrong. Not that I don't trust Ican but Moore's law is everywhere in this world!

[Bos]

Great. Thanks again for the advice. I'll go with PayPal then.
Can't wait to post my P8. I am thinking of getting a paint job done on it. I'm not stripping it down after I build it up. I have gone the decal route before and it starts wearing after a year or so. I guess one can just do another set.

[R_Pierce]

Hey guys, so I pulled the trigger on another frame.  My medium P8 will be up for sale very soon.  Im thinking 400.00 plus actual shipping cost via bikeflights to anywhere in the US.  I think thats roughly half what it would cost you to get a new P8 stateside.  So I think thats fair.

[Bos]

You sticking with the P8? That's a good review right there. The P9 does look nice, and apparently the same weight according to the Ican website. However 150mm is just a bit to much for what I do 90%of the time. Besides. Some 27.5+ tyres will add an inch travel anyway.

[R_Pierce]

You sticking with the P8? That's a good review right there. The P9 does look nice, and apparently the same weight according to the Ican website. However 150mm is just a bit to much for what I do 90%of the time. Besides. Some 27.5+ tyres will add an inch travel anyway.

I actually picked up an Intense Recluse for about the same price as a P8 would have cost me to get here.  That was the initial plan though!  Had I not wanted more reach it wouldn't be for sale.

[Bos]

Nice one. I've always had a soft spot for Intense.

Sorry, another question: What was the BB shell width on the P8?

[R_Pierce]

Nice one. I've always had a soft spot for Intense.

Sorry, another question: What was the BB shell width on the P8?

traditional 68/73mm BSA BB.

[R_Pierce]

And the frame will be on its way to its new home in Canada on Friday

[Bos]

So I received my frame this weekend. Hardly excited because not fully prepared and waiting for parts.
I'm going to post what I rode before so that you have an idea of what I will be comparing the new P8 to.

The highlights of my current build is:

110m travel Silverback Sprada 29
Revelation XX WC 120mm
WTB KOM I23 '29 on American Classic Disc hubs
Specialised Comand Post dropper
XT 1x11 drivetrain
Crank Bross Opium 3 15mm rise Bars 640mm
Picture Below

I do a good mix of endurance and trail riding. My weekend rides are either trailpark style or 2-3hour marathon type riding.  dudes while mid week rides are a mix of rocky singletrack and fire roads mostly solo. I'm really enjoying my current build apart from the realization that my ride will only be getting heavier the more burly I go (duh what did I expect) Point is, with a carbon frame It affords me some extras without going over 13kg(28lb) which if you do any kind of marathon style racing is a no-no. I had a history in dirt jumping and dual slalom in the late 90's and Early 2000's so I can probably get away with a little more on a 120mm bike than most however I am considering an upgrade to a Fox 34 or Pike 130mm fork at a later stage.

[Bos]

I forgot the photo of my current steed before I post the new frame.

[Bos]

So Here's my new frame! I must say, much burlier in real life. The P9 must be awesome, because this alone was  - WOW.
Sure, There are small imperfections on here that are probably not there on a Santacruz or something, but at just 100g heavier than a Tallboy and 1/3rd of the price, who's smiling?!

I am struggling to find the boost converting kit for my rear 12x142mm hub. I just rebuilt these so I'm not that keen to break them up again right now since I will most probably get a few other things I need to replace during the build.
So, I put my wheel in the dropouts and threaded the axel through.(pic attached) the gaps on the side of the wheel axel were seriously 2mm a side. I guess it could have been 3+6 which =6mm. The "standards police" will probably flame me for saying this but what the heck, It took no effort at all to flex the frame back to 142mm. Which I know... you lose the benefits of Boost, you might be cross threading it by 0.5degrees, your chain line will be out by 0.5 deg(I checked) But for the moment until I get new hubs and a new wheelset built up, how bad can it be?

[R_Pierce]

Its stressing the carbon and will only get worse when you ride it.  Yes, they flex.  But they are designed to support load at 148mm spec.  I wouldnt personally risk that myself without knowing any long term effects.  But with that said, to each their own 

[tmelle]

Have you considered something like this:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Bicycle-Boost-Hub-Conversion-Kit-Hub-Adapter-12-x-142mm-thru-axle-to-12-x-148mm/32829533376.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.2.41431822kW2IGS&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_5722813_10151_10065_10344_10068_10342_5722613_10343_5722913_10340_10341_10698_10697_10696_10084_10083_5722713_10618_10307_5711213_10059_10534_308_100031_10103_441_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620_5722513_5711313,searchweb201603_2,ppcSwitch_2&algo_expid=9ac71a7b-74ea-427a-82ee-9104eb3f0deb-0&algo_pvid=9ac71a7b-74ea-427a-82ee-9104eb3f0deb&priceBeautifyAB=0

Never tried it myself, but maybe a good solution?

[Bos]

I'm having the spacers made as we speak guys.  Was more wondering how something so subtle can really damage a part thats designed to take pretty major forces and that normal riding will exert forces at far more critical angles.

What was far more important was when I popped one of the pivot bolts out. Being a Chinerello virgin the little voice inside my head said.. just check the pivots for grease before you try ride it.  To be honest. I guess one will never know exactly what the carbon layup looks like inside the frame, but one area where one can kind of see that you're not buying that Tallboy is the pivots. The holes where carbon were wrapped around bushes(plugs for pivot holes) were done pretty roughly. Its all covered up pretty nicely but there are a couple of voids in pretty high stress places on some of the seatstay pivots on my frame.
There's some photos below but not of the voids. Took me about 3 hours to do all pivots. Should have done it before the bike was assembled but I had a local bike shop assemble it to save time.

Something else I noticed. The pivot near the rear axel had a steel bolt which at 30g a pop is some unnecessary weight to be adding so close to the suspended end of the bike. Maybe room for improvement in the future. I see they hollowed them out to try save weight. I bet it can be made from high grade Ali. All my bikes Iv'e ever had had Ali bolts at all pivots. But this is a minor. Just thought I'd share.