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R_Pierce

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #30 on: September 27, 2017, 02:16:40 AM »
OK....so 2nd ride out....much dryer conditions today. With the added progression to the shock and a little less sag the bike has come alive..... rear end is mega supple, plus tyres feel like cheating!, and 820mm bars let you really exploit the extra traction.... Feel sorry for my riding buddy when we get out on our local! :-)

very nice!!  Love it man!

rideczech

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #31 on: October 02, 2017, 06:04:00 AM »
I have about 25 hours on the bike now.

The long wheelbase combined with the low BB showed itself to be a bit of a problem on our super steep and tight trail yesterday.

Without a doubt the wheelbase could be shorter. But that said on faster trails it's not a big deal.

Also the extra 5mm stroke isn't helping me with clearance. With the correct 55mm stroke shock I will be running with more BB clearance which should help on the techy steep trails.

Still looking at making it more poppy.... I reckon with plus tyres 140mm out back is plenty for most with a 150/160 out front. If the P8 was slacker by 2 degrees it would be just the ticket!!


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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #32 on: October 05, 2017, 09:09:03 AM »
Love your build. I plan on building the P8 very soon, then running an adjustable headset if I feel it needs to be more slack. 

lRaphl

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #33 on: October 05, 2017, 09:40:21 AM »
Love your build. I plan on building the P8 very soon, then running an adjustable headset if I feel it needs to be more slack.

Can you tell me where you can find an adjustable headset for IS42/IS52 (what is used on all the chiners)? I searched a lot and only found that it wasn't possible because of lack of space.

Thanks!

R_Pierce

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2017, 04:13:06 AM »
You cannot.  They do not exist with integrated headsets like these.

ijak

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #35 on: October 10, 2017, 02:29:40 PM »
Gonna crash your post with my P9 - cept i built it 29er style - Large, 5'11.
1) I'm surprised you found a 210x60mm shock. I had the same issue with the Super Deluxe delays so i just said screw it.
2) I tuned my whole setup at whistler bike park and this thing is too unreal. I love it.

I came from a 2016 Reign 27.5 Medium which was smaller and slacker.  I am very happy with with the 66.5 HA with my current setup from riding a Norco c9.1 Large, my issues was that the wheelbase was so long from the slackness+29, i couldn't handle it properly. Turns in and out of berms was on the Norco required a lot of body english, overall just felt it required much more finesse than required. With this p9 as a slightly steeper HA - 66.5ish, it felt right - agile like the Reign, but much longer and much faster.


My Specs:

DVO Diamond Boost - 150mm (currently at 66.5 degrees HA - 160mm would make it 66 degrees)
DVO Topaz - 210x55 (22mm bushing top and bottom, 150mm travel)
GX Eagle Drivetrain
Magura Trail Sport Brakes (203/180)
Spank Oozt 345 Trail CX Ray - DHR II 2.4 WT DC
Giant 150mm Dropper (2017 - internal routing)
SDG Fly Mtn Saddle
Answer SL 780mm Bar
Husselfelt 40mm Stem
Lizardskin frame and Chainstay Protector
OneUp Composite Pedals

rideczech

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #36 on: October 10, 2017, 02:40:27 PM »
Gonna crash your post with my P9 - cept i built it 29er style - Large, 5'11.
1) I'm surprised you found a 210x60mm shock. I had the same issue with the Super Deluxe delays so i just said screw it.
2) I tuned my whole setup at whistler bike park and this thing is too unreal. I love it.

I came from a 2016 Reign 27.5 Medium which was smaller and slacker.  I am very happy with with the 66.5 HA with my current setup from riding a Norco c9.1 Large, my issues was that the wheelbase was so long from the slackness+29, i couldn't handle it properly. Turns in and out of berms was on the Norco required a lot of body english, overall just felt it required much more finesse than required. With this p9 as a slightly steeper HA - 66.5ish, it felt right - agile like the Reign, but much longer and much faster.


My Specs:

DVO Diamond Boost - 150mm (currently at 66.5 degrees HA - 160mm would make it 66 degrees)
DVO Topaz - 210x55 (22mm bushing top and bottom, 150mm travel)
GX Eagle Drivetrain
Magura Trail Sport Brakes (203/180)
Spank Oozt 345 Trail CX Ray - DHR II 2.4 WT DC
Giant 150mm Dropper (2017 - internal routing)
SDG Fly Mtn Saddle
Answer SL 780mm Bar
Husselfelt 40mm Stem
Lizardskin frame and Chainstay Protector
OneUp Composite Pedals

Crash away....great to see a 29er build....

Looks sweet.....how is the shock going?

ijak

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #37 on: October 10, 2017, 03:08:03 PM »
Still don't have it dialed in yet. I know I can get it to feel like a coil which it does now, but I'm bottoming out too often. I do think feel like I am but the sag marker tells me otherwise.

I am totally interested in your 27.5plus setup too, but I have my reserves about why go plus sizing when 29 gets you more volume (not as much as plus but more than 27.5) and faster rolling.
I am basing it off the trails of West coast canada though.


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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #38 on: October 10, 2017, 03:16:37 PM »
....going plus sized was a bit of a risk/experiment. I love super steep tech climbs and was interested in the traction benefits.... So far so good...the traction is incredible...I'm quite light at 65kgs and with running 40mm external rims, sidewall support seems fine at the low pressures.... Compared to my mates Slash 9.8 it feels a bit more nimble....

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #39 on: October 11, 2017, 12:17:56 AM »
A few photos with clearance might be useful for other people interested in doing a 29er build....

lRaphl

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #40 on: October 11, 2017, 01:41:32 PM »
A few photos with clearance might be useful for other people interested in doing a 29er build....

Indeed, it would be interesting.

ijak

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #41 on: October 13, 2017, 06:59:25 PM »
here's photos of the tire clearance. there's about 10mm on 29 DHRII 2.4 Wide Trails, enough space for me to put a rear mud guard if i wanted!


as for fully compressed, i don't have photos for that. My seat is moved 80% all the way up front and when shock (metric 210x55) is fully compressed, it doesn't hit the seat or post or frame. I think there's at least 20mm before it touches my seat when dropped all the way down + full compression of the shock
« Last Edit: October 13, 2017, 07:01:13 PM by ijak »

lRaphl

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #42 on: October 16, 2017, 08:38:44 AM »
Nice!  Thank you!

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2017, 08:17:53 AM »
What is your BB height with the 29er build?

ijak

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Re: Ican P9 build
« Reply #44 on: October 19, 2017, 10:37:44 PM »
What is your BB height with the 29er build?

330mm to centre of the BB