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numberzero

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #135 on: February 06, 2020, 12:13:14 PM »
Pinkbike has written a short test of the twin brother, the NSbikes Synonym.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ns-bikes-synonym-tr1-review.html

Medico

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #136 on: February 08, 2020, 11:38:39 AM »
Pinkbike has written a short test of the twin brother, the NSbikes Synonym.
https://www.pinkbike.com/news/ns-bikes-synonym-tr1-review.html

It's even better...the same author has a youtube channel making a vid of this bike and topic after I send him a reply about the ns bike review...lol


carbonazza

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #137 on: February 09, 2020, 03:20:50 PM »
David Arthur is a regular contributor of road.cc
It is funny how mysterious -- buying direct from China -- is to him.
Luckily he starts with Carbonda, which in my experience are amongst the best built and finished frames.

ReverendRockRazor

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #138 on: February 11, 2020, 01:09:35 PM »
 A link to the video
 And also that 1800 gram super light frame and its geo is calling me...and i just got done building my lcfs958. Dammit.

 Does anyone know if its possible to put a 165x45 on it and get it to 130mm?

 Edit from reading the thread a medium super light is little over 1900grams. Also i see 165x45 is a no go? So what is the rear travel with a 42.5 vs 40mm stroke?
 And last if i put a offset bushing in reverse would that be enough for the 45mm stroke to not hit the seat tube? And what is the travel with a 165x45 shock?
« Last Edit: February 11, 2020, 01:32:45 PM by ReverendRockRazor »

Jotegr

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #139 on: February 11, 2020, 04:49:33 PM »
Offset bushings don't really work in reverse unfortunately. They have a tendency to rotate to the slacker positioning in short order, so it won't really work for very long.

You can't determine the exact travel when swapping a 42.5 to a 45 because you have to take axle path in to account, and most bikes don't move through their travel relative to shock stroke in a linear manner. So it's kinda unpredictable exactly how much more travel you'll get. You can do a simple approximation but it isn't elegant and won't really get you the answer you want.

The inelegant way is that 45mm is roughly 6% more than 42.5. So that's approximately 127mm of travel. But as I said, that's an approximation and the math will work better for some frames than others.

mtbluvr68

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #140 on: February 11, 2020, 06:54:42 PM »
Most manufacturers have a 165X45 at 120mm of suspension and 165X40 and 110  so that leave 165X42.5 at 115.  115 to me would be fine with 130 mm fork in front.  Similar to Giant Trance 29..a decent trail bike. 

diycarbonbikes.com lists this frame which looks similar and sells in both a regular 165X38 version and a trunnion version. 

https://www.diycarbonbikes.com/collections/fullsuspensionframes/products/copy-of-2018-27-5-dcb-xct27-doctrine-style-carbon-mtb-frame?variant=31391711297616

With the Carbonda frame some riders said the 45 fit on it but the top of the shock linkage was close to touching the seat tube. 
2021 Tan Tan Seraph FM027  w/Light Bicycle wheels(XC)
2022 Marin Rift Zone 3 w/ elite wheels (trail)
2021 Tideace FMR185 w/Light Bicycle Wheels (road)
2023  Chasing Wind w/ elite wheels (Gravel)

numberzero

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #141 on: February 12, 2020, 03:26:44 AM »
About shock size :

165x42,5 fits, you have a few millimeters space between seatstays arch and seat tube.

165x45 doesn't fit, at full travel the arch is touching the seat tube.

All these informations were confirmed to me by carbonda.

Flo7

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #142 on: February 12, 2020, 06:19:14 AM »
Does a shock with piggy back fits?

Medico

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #143 on: February 12, 2020, 06:31:26 AM »
About shock size :

165x42,5 fits, you have a few millimeters space between seatstays arch and seat tube.

See also my pics a few pages ago with 165x 42.5 shock...does fit wit more than enough room...

Do also think a piggy bag will fit, but haven't tried it

165x45 doesn't fit, at full travel the arch is touching the seat tube.

All these informations were confirmed to me by carbonda.

ReverendRockRazor

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #144 on: February 12, 2020, 03:29:02 PM »
Most manufacturers have a 165X45 at 120mm of suspension and 165X40 and 110  so that leave 165X42.5 at 115.  115 to me would be fine with 130 mm fork in front.  Similar to Giant Trance 29..a decent trail bike. 

diycarbonbikes.com lists this frame which looks similar and sells in both a regular 165X38 version and a trunnion version. 

https://www.diycarbonbikes.com/collections/fullsuspensionframes/products/copy-of-2018-27-5-dcb-xct27-doctrine-style-carbon-mtb-frame?variant=31391711297616

With the Carbonda frame some riders said the 45 fit on it but the top of the shock linkage was close to touching the seat tube.
Ive already built that frame up. Its the same as a fs027 from miracle bike.
 I liked it and thats what led me to build my Lightcarbon 958.

 I really really like flexstay designs but they are very dependent on shock tune.

spec47

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #145 on: February 12, 2020, 03:32:52 PM »
Never heard back from Carbonda since my frame was returned to sender (shipped to Canada via EMS), but just picked it up from the post office today. Looks like it was mailed on Feb 6 and got here Feb 10, pretty quick and didn't get charged customs/duties/taxes at all.

Should have everything to build it, but need a few feet of snow to melt.

ride_n

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #146 on: February 12, 2020, 06:31:08 PM »
Great news, Spec47...!  pls keep us updated.  looks like they're still laying low in china due to the virus...

mtbluvr68

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #147 on: February 12, 2020, 07:28:53 PM »
Medico how much travel do you have in the fork?  which fork? 
2021 Tan Tan Seraph FM027  w/Light Bicycle wheels(XC)
2022 Marin Rift Zone 3 w/ elite wheels (trail)
2021 Tideace FMR185 w/Light Bicycle Wheels (road)
2023  Chasing Wind w/ elite wheels (Gravel)

spec47

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #148 on: February 12, 2020, 08:06:49 PM »


Just unboxed it and I'm impressed with the quality so far. Medium SL version seems to come in at 1860g.

Medico

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #149 on: February 12, 2020, 11:34:48 PM »
Medico how much travel do you have in the fork?  which fork?

Do you mean shock? Rs deluxe rct 165x42,5
And front fox float 120mm but when my new carbon nexties arive it will be a DVO sapphire d1 120mm