Author Topic: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts  (Read 497574 times)

Zomb1e

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1950 on: February 05, 2022, 04:53:21 AM »
I'm thinking about replacing fox dps (ebay oem giant anthem 2018) with rockshox nude rlc3, what do you think? wouldn't it be a step back in performance and reliability?
What's wrong with your fox dps? Why you want to replace it?

ilyamaksimov

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1951 on: February 05, 2022, 04:58:56 AM »
What's wrong with your fox dps? Why you want to replace it?

everything is fine with it, but I want remote lockout and there is a desire to change the digressive damper to a linear
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FullCarbonAlchemist

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1952 on: February 05, 2022, 01:29:02 PM »
Does anyone know if a DVO Topaz rear shock (165x42.5, TR) would fit in this frame? Thanks!

The only thing I might be concerned about with a Topaz is that the piggyback might not have enough space because the flat bottom of the down tube is much shorter than on the FM1001/1002.

To the best of my recollection, I’ve never once seen a 936 with a piggyback shock. That could be simply because piggybacks are considered more “enduro” than XC, but my assumption is there’s a more practical reason.

If you can find any other instance of a piggyback shock fitting a 936, then I’d assume it *should* be possible even though the Topaz bladder enclosure is a little bigger than some other piggybacks like the DPX2.

Zomb1e

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1953 on: February 07, 2022, 02:48:43 AM »
Nearly all parts arrived, so starting building wheels

Seba MTB

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1954 on: February 07, 2022, 04:08:28 AM »
Nearly all parts arrived, so starting building wheels
I am curious how the sroad (is it sroad?) cassette will work. I think about it too. I have used up gx casette need to be replaced.

Zomb1e

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1955 on: February 07, 2022, 04:48:29 AM »
I am curious how the sroad (is it sroad?) cassette will work. I think about it too. I have used up gx casette need to be replaced.
Yep, it's sroad 10-50T. I suppose it to be at least better than ztto 9-50T, but I'll give feedback about how it works not earlier than late spring - here in north-west Russia there are too much snow to test it properly now.

Seba MTB

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1956 on: February 07, 2022, 05:31:46 AM »
Yep, it's sroad 10-50T. I suppose it to be at least better than ztto 9-50T, but I'll give feedback about how it works not earlier than late spring - here in north-west Russia there are too much snow to test it properly now.
Same in Poland :). Waiting for better weather and to build and test my carbonda 909.

Vipassana

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1957 on: February 08, 2022, 01:38:15 PM »
It's a copy of Gemini Propus combo, with 60mm stem and 740mm handlebar.

Do you have perhaps a link to the bar you bought? It helps me to cut through the sea of AliExpress listings.

urbs

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1958 on: February 11, 2022, 03:48:48 PM »
everything is fine with it, but I want remote lockout and there is a desire to change the digressive damper to a linear

Oddly, I'm thinking of doing the exact same thing for the same reason...

If you do it let me know how it goes!

ilyamaksimov

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1959 on: February 12, 2022, 02:24:19 AM »
Oddly, I'm thinking of doing the exact same thing for the same reason...

If you do it let me know how it goes!

yes, okay, I'll write the impressions of the ride, but it will probably be in April or May. It's cold and snowing here in Russia until that time :)

dan_cx

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1960 on: February 19, 2022, 03:11:21 PM »
I too would like a lock out and will get the kit for the SidLuxe Ultimate prior to a potential 2021 Breck Epic.

I'm looking at the 936 as a "B" bike for events like Breck Epic. I did Breck in 2019, and having a lock-out is definitely a plus! There are a few days that start with long paved climbs out of town, and there are several portions of dirt roads throughout all 6 stages, so the lock-out definitely helps. I rode a 2020 Norco Revolver FS 2 100/100mm, with lock-out, and while the 100mm is perfectly capable, I've since bumped it up to 120/120mm. That extra 20mm of travel would've been nice to have. By Day 3 your body is starting to feel pretty beat!
SRAM Neutral Race Support Mechanic

dan_cx

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1961 on: February 19, 2022, 06:55:28 PM »
Whew!!! All 131 pages thoroughly read! The 936 has been high on my list of potential frames, but the hardware quality has been a bit of a booger, IMO. I did some digging into the other brands using the frame and came across this on the Vitus page: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0365/1272/7173/files/RapideFS_Metric_Spare_Parts_Kit_External.pdf?v=1630512037 It's a superb breakdown of all the pivots, hardware, bearings, everything in the 936 frames! Hopefully, it will be of use to those of us in need of replacement hardware.
SRAM Neutral Race Support Mechanic

urbs

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1962 on: February 21, 2022, 11:38:12 AM »
yes, okay, I'll write the impressions of the ride, but it will probably be in April or May. It's cold and snowing here in Russia until that time :)

Thanks! And don't worry about the delay, it is also covered in snow here in Oslo at the moment.

theirishrider

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1963 on: February 21, 2022, 12:07:28 PM »
Whew!!! All 131 pages thoroughly read! The 936 has been high on my list of potential frames, but the hardware quality has been a bit of a booger, IMO. I did some digging into the other brands using the frame and came across this on the Vitus page: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0365/1272/7173/files/RapideFS_Metric_Spare_Parts_Kit_External.pdf?v=1630512037 It's a superb breakdown of all the pivots, hardware, bearings, everything in the 936 frames! Hopefully, it will be of use to those of us in need of replacement hardware.

Thanks for this, has anyone found where to buy replacements though?  Do I have to contact Vitus?

ilyamaksimov

Re: Carbonda fm936 Thoughts
« Reply #1964 on: February 21, 2022, 12:35:00 PM »
Thanks! And don't worry about the delay, it is also covered in snow here in Oslo at the moment.

actually I got it the other day and installed it. Haven't traveled yet. From a home test it is clear that the initial sensitivity of the damper is higher and the final progression too. In general, the way the digressive and linear work of shock absorbers is drawn on the graphs is the same feeling from the test at home.

traction mode is softer than fox

difference in air spring progression in open mode and traction mode is about 30%

cable pull 15 mm, need twinloc remote

real stroke 38 mm

in details, the shock absorber feels simpler and cheaper than fox)