Author Topic: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?  (Read 7136 times)

Fat Larry

2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« on: March 26, 2022, 09:12:30 PM »
I would like to order some rotors for an enduro build and after a few searches on here i'm unsure of what to order.

I'm fairly new to mtb and rotor brakes so don't really have a point of reference to compare anything i might order from Ali.

Any suggestions? I know i want 203 or 220mm.

Anyone know of a company that sells thicker rotors? I have an mt5 calliper i'm using on this build and read they use slightly thicker than normal rotors.

Ztto seem to have mixed reviews.

Do i need floating? Do floating rotors fail at the joins?

Thanks.



benando

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2022, 02:33:00 AM »
I bought the ztto floating rotors in 160 and 140mm. They do seem thicker, even after alignment with spacers so that they fit centered between my brake pads. The 160 had a minor wobble which I corrected by gentle bending with my hand. I also had low speed brake shudder which went away after 10 miles of road riding.

Overall I wouldn't buy again simply because the solid steel rotors are plenty for me. But if I had to buy floating rotors, I would buy ztto again. Floating rotors do not have any history that I've read of failing. Also the ztto rotors are identical to differently branded rotors I see from Western bike retailers.

My experience with smaller rotors could easily differ from others experiences with the larger ones. More chance for a bad wobble to occur when bigger.

StiffWeenies

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2022, 12:42:57 AM »
I think Onirii might have something right up your alley

They've contracted Stirling Design (designer of Niu Aero) to come up with these disc rotors that'll come in 140/160/180/203mm sizes with 6-bolt or CL mounting options. These rotors are supposed to be paired with the upcoming Onirii M4 and M2 post mount brakes for MTB. I guess this is also formal proof that Onirii are indeed working on proper mineral oil hydraulic brakes, hopefully we'll see a flat mount version of that 4 piston M4 calliper.




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Fat Larry

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2022, 07:08:36 PM »
Interesting. Nice looking rotors.

Are those cable actuated hydro brakes? How are they?

StiffWeenies

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2022, 08:11:13 PM »
Interesting. Nice looking rotors.

Are those cable actuated hydro brakes? How are they?

The BR-05 callipers in the second picture are hydromechanical, I can't comment on performance because I've never tried them before but they seem to be the best hydromechanical option after the Juins which are 2-3x the price depending on model. The M4 and M2 appear to be proper mineral oil hydraulic and the M4 lever/calliper design itself looks to be very Trickstuff/Hope RX4+ PM inspired, but I'm not too knowledgeable on MTB brakes and could be totally off here.




« Last Edit: September 01, 2022, 01:34:19 PM by StiffWeenies »

Icyseanfitz

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2022, 11:46:17 PM »
Like the look of those m4 brakes, any indication of release?

StiffWeenies

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2022, 01:18:30 AM »
Like the look of those m4 brakes, any indication of release?

No idea but definitely not anytime soon considering the manufacturing and logistics situation right now.

Fat Larry

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2022, 04:40:19 AM »
I think Onirii might have something right up your alley

They've contracted Stirling Design (designer of Niu Aero) to come up with these disc rotors that'll come in 140/160/180/203mm sizes with 6-bolt or CL mounting options. These rotors are supposed to be paired with the upcoming Onirii M4 and M2 post mount brakes for MTB. I guess this is also formal proof that Onirii are indeed working on proper mineral oil hydraulic brakes, hopefully we'll see a flat mount version of that 4 piston M4 calliper.



Any idea where i can get those rotors? Can't find them on Ali. Are they not out yet?

StiffWeenies

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2022, 05:54:34 AM »
Any idea where i can get those rotors? Can't find them on Ali. Are they not out yet?

The 140/160mm CL/6-bolt versions should be released soon domestically on Taobao. The model names are CD-02 and CD-03 respectively

1Sigma

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2022, 07:27:00 AM »
The 140/160mm CL/6-bolt versions should be released soon domestically on Taobao. The model names are CD-02 and CD-03 respectively

I’ll keep an eye out.  I don’t see them onTaobao yet
Better than average - Extra Average

Fat Larry

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2022, 08:17:45 PM »
I couldn't wait and ordered some random floating Rotors which it seems a few brands on Ali are putting a lable on. Hopefully they're not garbage.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001191926306.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.83231802HmbhyM

Was tempted by the version with cooling areas added but i have no idea if they're a gimmick or not.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32947453001.html

Can report back if anyone's interested but bear in mind i have minimal experience with disc brakes so it'll likely be limited to: They seem to work good or they don't work at all/fail catastrophically.

I wanted centrelock but didn't find many cheap rotors, so ordered some six bolt adapters from Sensah. Again another potential failure point, which is suboptimal.. fingers crossed i guess. 
« Last Edit: May 07, 2022, 08:29:52 PM by Fat Larry »

StiffWeenies

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2022, 01:05:11 AM »
I couldn't wait and ordered some random floating Rotors which it seems a few brands on Ali are putting a lable on. Hopefully they're not garbage.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4001191926306.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.83231802HmbhyM

Was tempted by the version with cooling areas added but i have no idea if they're a gimmick or not.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32947453001.html

Can report back if anyone's interested but bear in mind i have minimal experience with disc brakes so it'll likely be limited to: They seem to work good or they don't work at all/fail catastrophically.

I wanted centrelock but didn't find many cheap rotors, so ordered some six bolt adapters from Sensah. Again another potential failure point, which is suboptimal.. fingers crossed i guess.

IIIPRO shouldn't be too bad. They co-develop the BR-05 hydromechanical and upcoming M4 hydraulic calipers together with Onirii and Onirii themselves used to bundle those floating rotors with their brakes before they came out with the CD-01.

and good eye spotting the cooling fin version! I wonder if they’re any thicker/beefier than the standard ones?
« Last Edit: May 08, 2022, 09:39:57 AM by StiffWeenies »

hazzer19

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #12 on: May 09, 2022, 10:47:07 AM »
I've been using these lightweight Deckas rotors https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32964003633.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.29ba1802DilydJ with 6 bolt hubs and when I switched wheels I got these adapters https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000260123765.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.29ba1802DilydJ and they have been working great in 6 bolt and Center Lock set up.



Fat Larry

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2022, 05:22:25 AM »
I notice that all the chinese rotors seem to have less material in the breaking surface when compared to Shimano/Sram. Wouldn't that affect performance/heat dissipation and perhaps mean they wear faster?

St0mpB0x

Re: 2022 - Rotor recommendations?
« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2022, 03:48:32 AM »
IF they are indeed thinner that means they will get to an unsafe thickness faster. Performance (however you wish to define that) and heat dissipation of a thinner rotor with all else being equal will likely be lower. Would you notice the difference? Probably not.