Replica Factor Ostro VAM

[Serge_K]

Takes up to a 32!

Just like Katsumi.

[jadenchinertown192]

i wasn't very bike savvy then (still not very savvy now), how he marketed on the chinese platforms has already satisfied my needs/wants (basically a knockoff factor frame for 1/5 of the price that looks at good and could not be differentiated by the naked eye. I apologize for the inconvenience caused here, i did feedback to him that my frameset was very well received and he should focus more on aliexpress, he didn't took it well though.


but i recently placed a deposit for another "one bike to rule them all" frameset with darimo nexum drag handlebars and darimo seatpost (fake obviously) . call me a sucker i guess.

what frameset did u get? and where are u getting the darimo nexum and seatpost?

[estingo]

The last thing that I want to mention as you pointed out the Darima seatpost, I bought a replacement seatpost on AliExpress (https://nl.aliexpress.com/item/1005006226516164.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.4.6dc379d2tMfyz5&gatewayAdapt=glo2nld which is 89 grams lighter (claimed weight 131 grams incl bolts) than the original (weighted at 220 including bolts) and costs less than a Darima (duh because it's from AliE). Maybe worth looking at.

Saddle is every rider's preference so I won't say anything about that. I got a Ryet carbon saddle width of 135mm, but that's so personal mine weighs in at 115 grams. The previous one was 163 grams.

For the ones that are interested, received the seatpost and added 2 pictures, one with the old seatpost and 163 grams saddle (total of 382 grams) and the other picture with the new seat post and 115 grams saddle (total of 269 grams). Probably, I even need to cut a bit off the new seat post to have it on the correct height so it can become a few grams ligther as well. Not as advertized with the 131 grams but close to it. Overal weight saving is then 113 grams with saddle and seatpost.

The costs: Saddle 45 euro, seat post 155 euro, so a total of 200 euro's for a weight saving of 113 grams so that costs are a bit on the high side of 1,76 euro per gram. But as I said if I compare the weight saving at the axles if I go for the Carbon ones the costs per gram is at 6,66 euro per grams.

[OralMaster]

what frameset did u get? and where are u getting the darimo nexum and seatpost?

nexum drag

https://www.goofish.com/item?spm=a21ybx.search.searchFeedList.7.792d3da65ihUSr&id=831649676355&categoryId=126866920

seatpost

https://www.goofish.com/item?spm=a21ybx.search.searchFeedList.25.58c53da6Un5Hit&id=831086303616&categoryId=126866928


I am getting the frame with the above 2 for a total of 7000 rmb (god knows when he will deliver though)

they just listed out the new ostro 2.0

https://www.goofish.com/item?spm=a21ybx.search.searchFeedList.1.786b3da6d2QfWv&id=830250233595&categoryId=126866897

prices listed are probably downpayment

[Serge_K]

nexum drag

https://www.goofish.com/item?spm=a21ybx.search.searchFeedList.7.792d3da65ihUSr&id=831649676355&categoryId=126866920

seatpost

https://www.goofish.com/item?spm=a21ybx.search.searchFeedList.25.58c53da6Un5Hit&id=831086303616&categoryId=126866928


I am getting the frame with the above 2 for a total of 7000 rmb (god knows when he will deliver though)

they just listed out the new ostro 2.0

https://www.goofish.com/item?spm=a21ybx.search.searchFeedList.1.786b3da6d2QfWv&id=830250233595&categoryId=126866897

prices listed are probably downpayment

Fake bonanza! the frames look amazing... good thing that's not available to the west, people would buy these en masse, let's be real. starting with me... they look like shiny candy.

[OralMaster]

Completely agree, people would eat these up. The quality of the my ostro frame is superb honestly. The internals of mine are extremely clean like the white one, and it was off XianYu for 2950, 3000 yuan ish. I'd buy one if I were you. I'm many thousands of miles in and still going strong. They are making a t1100 Ostro Vam v2 and I'm considering that bike aswell. The counterfeit market in Asia is insane honestly. the 20th anniversary ospws came out like less than 2 months ago and its already available to buy as a clone. Any I honestly cannot believe they are counterfeiting such obscure parts like darimo, carbonti, srm etc

 xianyu is such a great place for a shallow person like me. a lot of the oem bike brands which offers great frames are also on xianyu, it’s just that they are not marketed to the west. Either they are don’t have the intention or panda podium don’t pick them up.  i.e the 众为g20 and g30 gravel bikes are such frames that undeservingly goes under the radar.

[rasch]

You guys should think about doing forward shipping to the EU... I'm sure you'd have a lot of clients.

I was in Malaysia (KL) last week and tried to find a way to ship a few things without going through customs. It was very hard though, because I'd need more time and to understand language and get a contact there. All shops that I spoke to don't want to deal with shipping.

For me, receiving and sending a package as is is quite easy. Receive the package, stick the new address in it, and let the courier pick it. Ancestral dropshipping but to deal with some cases it has to be like this.

[acino]

You guys should think about doing forward shipping to the EU... I'm sure you'd have a lot of clients.

But also a lot of courts going after them 

[rasch]

But also a lot of courts going after them 

Not necessarily for copies. In KL I was looking for people who could ship basically all pieces of a bike together.
A common problem I have is that I want a set of pieces like wheels, frame, groupsets, seats etc. They come from different sources and shipping is a a big percentage of it.

Adding for example a small groupset in a the frame box is just adding it inside the box. For us in the EU for example buying an ltwoo R9 or a 105 di2 from china we have to pay duties because no one wants to send it via these DPD (paid already tax couriers). I was just trying to find someone who could add thing into the box.

[acino]

Not necessarily for copies. In KL I was looking for people who could ship basically all pieces of a bike together.
A common problem I have is that I want a set of pieces like wheels, frame, groupsets, seats etc. They come from different sources and shipping is a a big percentage of it.

Adding for example a small groupset in a the frame box is just adding it inside the box. For us in the EU for example buying an ltwoo R9 or a 105 di2 from china we have to pay duties because no one wants to send it via these DPD (paid already tax couriers). I was just trying to find someone who could add thing into the box.

Alright, I understood it in the context of en masse importing big brand copies. What you wrote makes sense. Anyway, won't derail the thread furhter 

[jerozilla]

Anyway to order the v2 if you're only a native English speaker? I actually ordered a 54cm from your original seller off aliexpress and am waiting on it, I will be taking detailed photos and using a camera to look inside the frame and will post it here when it arrives.

But I would like to know if that seller does the 45cm frame for a smaller girl friend of mine (The v2 in your goofish link).

xianyu is such a great place for a shallow person like me. a lot of the oem bike brands which offers great frames are also on xianyu, it’s just that they are not marketed to the west. Either they are don’t have the intention or panda podium don’t pick them up.  i.e the 众为g20 and g30 gravel bikes are such frames that undeservingly goes under the radar.

[OralMaster]

Anyway to order the v2 if you're only a native English speaker? I actually ordered a 54cm from your original seller off aliexpress and am waiting on it, I will be taking detailed photos and using a camera to look inside the frame and will post it here when it arrives.

But I would like to know if that seller does the 45cm frame for a smaller girl friend of mine (The v2 in your goofish link).

if you can do transfers using alipay then wouldn’t have a problem to purchase it. the seller can do english just enough for you to communicate clearly what you want.but you would also need to arrange for shipping by yourself. else it won’t be long before it starts to sell on aliexpress, then you wouldn’t have to worry about the above 2

[A.V.G]

Hey Team,

Regarding the Ostro replica, has anyone here successfully acquired a frameset from First-Class Carbon Store on Aliexpress?  If so, how long did the process take from order to delivery?

[jerozilla]

Hey Team,

Regarding the Ostro replica, has anyone here successfully acquired a frameset from First-Class Carbon Store on Aliexpress?  If so, how long did the process take from order to delivery?

I believe OralMaster's white one up in the the thread is from them. I have one that is in the final stages and while he said 10-20 days till delivery, (Ordered Nov 24) same as Oralmasters actually with white and black. He replied promptly apologizing and sent a photo of the frame (nothing detailed) but said 7 more working days for it to depart it's in the final stages of QC. Fork was not in the photo but I could see the frame. I would say if you order in a month that is not December expect 20-30 days, maybe worst case 40 days.

I plan to take very detailed photos and get a snake camera that can look at the layup once it arrives. They charge a major premium and offer 3 "levels" of quality, I also chose the top one (6500RMB or around $1300CAD).

[jerozilla]

if you can do transfers using alipay then wouldn’t have a problem to purchase it. the seller can do english just enough for you to communicate clearly what you want.but you would also need to arrange for shipping by yourself. else it won’t be long before it starts to sell on aliexpress, then you wouldn’t have to worry about the above 2

Damn yeah might be too much for an english only speaker for me. I was hoping I could get a 45cm one, as the vendor you used is doing the older Ostro frameset that doesn't go below 49cm. My frame from the vendor you used is pretty much finished and waiting for shipping. Hoping my internal CF layup looks as clean as your photos as I went with the 6500RMB highest tier as well. No major hiccups yet besides some delays, placed order on Nov 24th and received a photo today apologizing asking me to extend the aliexpress timer by 7 days.

Did you keep their D shape plug or replace it with a Deda? Hoping the handlebars aren't too flexy but if so I'll just grab something else.