Author Topic: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset  (Read 27222 times)

wintermute

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #165 on: December 15, 2024, 04:52:44 PM »
As above, I have the same spacing issues with a 24mm BB. The spindle is advertised as 92mm, with most bb's sitting at 90.5 so the idea being a 0.5mm drive side and then nip up with the preload coller. Unfortunately the spindle is about 96-98mm, so you'd have to whack a load of spacers either side and sort of just eyeball getting an even chainline.

kvnp

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #166 on: December 15, 2024, 07:17:38 PM »
Hey,

Is it normal that I have a little gap between the crank arm and the spider powermeter ?

Tines

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #167 on: December 16, 2024, 02:02:24 AM »
As above, I have the same spacing issues with a 24mm BB. The spindle is advertised as 92mm, with most bb's sitting at 90.5 so the idea being a 0.5mm drive side and then nip up with the preload coller. Unfortunately the spindle is about 96-98mm, so you'd have to whack a load of spacers either side and sort of just eyeball getting an even chainline.
Are you going to return it?
I think a previous poster here with a video also installed a couple of spacers.
So doesn’t seem like an isolated case.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2024, 03:18:01 AM by Tines »

wintermute

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #168 on: December 16, 2024, 03:25:48 AM »
Are you going to return it?
I think a previous poster here with a video also installed a couple of spacers.
So doesn’t seem like an isolated case.

I've raised it with the store it was bought from. I'll give them a couple of days for a solution otherwise it's going back on them.

I've posted this elsewhere but you can get Red E1 cranks for almost this price now.

Tines

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #169 on: December 16, 2024, 04:19:45 AM »
Yeah, unless you have bb86..


getmekd

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #170 on: December 16, 2024, 05:21:45 AM »
Canyons all have bb 86.5 and they fit sram and shimano on them, if it was such a big deal would they do that?

Tines

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #171 on: December 16, 2024, 05:41:46 AM »
Would they care if the BBs last anything between 0.5 year and 3 years?
They’d generate revenue.

pv_hl

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #172 on: December 16, 2024, 07:03:40 AM »
I finally managed to fix the chain line issue on my setup. My BB is 90.5mm (BBRight). As others have pointed out with chainring issues, the same problem exists with the spider. The machining quality is poor - some tabs on the spider are 3.4mm thick, while others are 3.6mm. The spacers included are also the cheapest imaginable, and their thickness is inconsistent (not 1.5mm but 1.4mm or 1.6mm instead). I think the chain line problem comes from the spider’s incorrect depth.

I’m using Ultegra 11-speed, and to resolve the chain line issue, I had to add 3mm spacers to the drive side. However, this left no room for preload adjustment, and tightening the crank bolt added extra stress on the bearings. Additionally, with the 3mm spacers, the crank arms were no longer centered relative to the rear wheel. I figured that if I used 1.5mm spacers on the non-drive side and adjusted the preload ring by ~1.5mm, I could center the crank arms. While this helped, the chain line worsened, as the spider was pushing the chain too far in, causing it to rub against the inner plate of the front derailleur.

Here I realized the spider itself was the issue. After searching online, I found a replacement spider from Stone with similar dimensions but slightly less depth. I decided to take a chance and ordered it, and thankfully, it worked. The new spider had a ~1.5mm shallower depth, reducing the need for 3mm spacers to just 1.5mm, and I could finally use the preload ring. The chainring tabs on the Stone spider were also properly machined, with a uniform thickness of 3.5mm, similar to Shimano’s. I slightly adjusted front derailleur and everything looks okay for now, however I haven’t been able to properly test it outside yet, as it’s winter here.

Initially, I wanted to return the crankset. The seller contacted me, begging not to return it through AliExpress, as he’d lose money and the crankset would just be recycled somewhere at AliExpress's warehouse. He promised to cover all costs if I shipped it directly back to China. I asked him if he can provide any solutions and decided to give him a chance, but after two weeks of vague promises and no real solutions, I found my own fix and asked him to compensate me for the replacement spider. At first, he claimed it was too expensive and suggested splitting the cost 50/50, but eventually, he agreed to cover the full amount. However, it’s been nearly two weeks since then, and I still haven’t received any refund. Now I'm being simply ignored.

So, I DO NOT RECOMMEND buying this crankset unless you’re confident you can handle the issues yourself. The crank arms and spindle look good, the rest is bad, and if anything breaks, don’t expect much in terms of support. While I’ll probably keep the crankset, I’m still unsure about its reliability since I haven't tested it outside.

wintermute

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #173 on: December 16, 2024, 01:41:15 PM »
Yeah, unless you have bb86..

I love Shimano stuff and have an absolute anathema to SRAM's business practices, quality control etc etc.

BUT

Honestly the bog standard SRAM bb86 DUB bottom brackets aren't that bad. If they aren't smooth the issue is with your frameset's finishing being of poor quality; and you can get around this fitting a wheels or token solid bb.

Yeah it's not an ideal solution; the bearings don't last quite as long as a Shimano pressfit because they have to be so small, but at the same time they aren't super expensive and the crank is like HALF the bloody weight of the Shimano option. Also it's easier to fit a Sigeyi and the shimano PM options are trash.
« Last Edit: December 16, 2024, 01:42:49 PM by wintermute »

Tines

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #174 on: December 16, 2024, 02:06:19 PM »
Crankarm PM is perfectly fine tho.
Yeah you’re probably right.
My dura ace Bb86 doesn’t move without resistance at all, so I think it’s borderline undersized.
So that’s one of the reasons I might wanna stay away from dub. Plus 165 isn’t really available in Germany.

toxin

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #175 on: December 16, 2024, 03:33:39 PM »
Crankarm PM is perfectly fine tho.

Spider pms are more reliable than any shimano crank arm option

wintermute

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #176 on: December 17, 2024, 07:36:47 AM »
I finally managed to fix the chain line issue on my setup. My BB is 90.5mm (BBRight). As others have pointed out with chainring issues, the same problem exists with the spider. The machining quality is poor - some tabs on the spider are 3.4mm thick, while others are 3.6mm. The spacers included are also the cheapest imaginable, and their thickness is inconsistent (not 1.5mm but 1.4mm or 1.6mm instead). I think the chain line problem comes from the spider’s incorrect depth.

I’m using Ultegra 11-speed, and to resolve the chain line issue, I had to add 3mm spacers to the drive side. However, this left no room for preload adjustment, and tightening the crank bolt added extra stress on the bearings. Additionally, with the 3mm spacers, the crank arms were no longer centered relative to the rear wheel. I figured that if I used 1.5mm spacers on the non-drive side and adjusted the preload ring by ~1.5mm, I could center the crank arms. While this helped, the chain line worsened, as the spider was pushing the chain too far in, causing it to rub against the inner plate of the front derailleur.

Here I realized the spider itself was the issue. After searching online, I found a replacement spider from Stone with similar dimensions but slightly less depth. I decided to take a chance and ordered it, and thankfully, it worked. The new spider had a ~1.5mm shallower depth, reducing the need for 3mm spacers to just 1.5mm, and I could finally use the preload ring. The chainring tabs on the Stone spider were also properly machined, with a uniform thickness of 3.5mm, similar to Shimano’s. I slightly adjusted front derailleur and everything looks okay for now, however I haven’t been able to properly test it outside yet, as it’s winter here.

Initially, I wanted to return the crankset. The seller contacted me, begging not to return it through AliExpress, as he’d lose money and the crankset would just be recycled somewhere at AliExpress's warehouse. He promised to cover all costs if I shipped it directly back to China. I asked him if he can provide any solutions and decided to give him a chance, but after two weeks of vague promises and no real solutions, I found my own fix and asked him to compensate me for the replacement spider. At first, he claimed it was too expensive and suggested splitting the cost 50/50, but eventually, he agreed to cover the full amount. However, it’s been nearly two weeks since then, and I still haven’t received any refund. Now I'm being simply ignored.

So, I DO NOT RECOMMEND buying this crankset unless you’re confident you can handle the issues yourself. The crank arms and spindle look good, the rest is bad, and if anything breaks, don’t expect much in terms of support. While I’ll probably keep the crankset, I’m still unsure about its reliability since I haven't tested it outside.

Yeah so they just got back to me and did the same thing - 'friend close the dispute send to this address we will offer you a discount etc etc'. The problem is as soon as I close the dispute I lose any ability to return the item and before they saw the dispute they were telling me 'its fine just put 5mm spacer drive side then tighten lock ring'.

Tines

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #177 on: December 17, 2024, 08:07:32 AM »
I think the last time I wanted to return a item the vendor tried the same.
But shipping cost would’ve been at least 50€ and also all the work with the declaration. So, no thanks.

pv_hl

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #178 on: December 17, 2024, 09:52:48 AM »
Yeah so they just got back to me and did the same thing - 'friend close the dispute send to this address we will offer you a discount etc etc'. The problem is as soon as I close the dispute I lose any ability to return the item and before they saw the dispute they were telling me 'its fine just put 5mm spacer drive side then tighten lock ring'.

I wouldn't trust him now. The problem is that he wants to cover the costs of shipping only. How are you going to claim the refund without having crankset is a question. Because he wants the refund to be done thru Aliexpress. And considering he is just ignoring me now completely, same thing can happen afterwards.

repoman

Re: LEXON Road Carbon Crankset
« Reply #179 on: December 17, 2024, 09:59:19 AM »
Would this crank be usable with a 1x? Or is the chainline going to be massively screwed on a frame with a BB86 or (anything for that matter...it seems like their engineers designed a MTB spindle for a road spindle by mistake)?
I need to figure out what to do, Lexon Official is being really annoying saying I need to take videos of the issues and that it's normal.
Does Aliexpress have much power over the vendors to force refund and make them pay for shipping?


Here is why the chainring doesn't fit on the spider, the depth of the tab is 0.581" in one direction and 0.562" in another (0.5mm deviation)...which is pretty bad if the ID of the tabs on the ring are uniform and meant for 0.581". 







« Last Edit: December 17, 2024, 10:23:39 AM by repoman »