14 speed cassette

[kbernstein]

Definitely looks "special". Maybe a way to avoid any patent issues?

Looks more like the lockring is longer to fit more cogs. The HG lockring patent long expired

[TidyDinosaur]

Looks more like the lockring is longer to fit more cogs. The HG lockring patent long expired

That was my first thought too, but how would that fit in a normal frame?

[ieatbamboo]

That was my first thought too, but how would that fit in a normal frame?

Its actually a shorter HG hub body with longer lockring.
Thinner cassette and thinner chain.

[TidyDinosaur]

Its actually a shorter HG hub body with longer lockring.
Thinner cassette and thinner chain.

Aha! I see the smallest cog is 10T, so that cassette would not fit on a standard HG freehub... So they have invented a work-around.

So this cassette will not fit on any mainstream freehub I suppose?

[jonathanf2]

So when is this setup available on AliEx? 

It looks similar in construction to my ZTTO 11 speed 9-46t cassette. So far I have no complaints with the design other than I'm not a fan of alloy granny cog. I try to avoid avoid using that gear if possible.

[JonMS]

No brands at all.
The whole piece of cassette is milled from a single block of steel, the last piece is actually aluminium which acts as the hub interface as well.

Also the hub body is a weird thing, it is a shimano with modified lock nut/ring.

Interesting, this is probably why they would not sell me a cassette.

[TidyDinosaur]

Interesting, this is probably why they would not sell me a cassette.

You will not be able to mount it on any other wheel...

[JonMS]

You will not be able to mount it on any other wheel...

... Yes that is understood now that we have a closer look at the cassette.

[jonathanf2]

Can you attach a standard HG/XD freehub on that wheel? What happens if you need to replace the cassette?

[ieatbamboo]

Interesting, this is probably why they would not sell me a cassette.

Actually I spoke with them and they are willing to sell just the cassette, around 150usd. Just that you won't be able to mount it on standard hubs which defeats the purpose.

So far I have yet to change to another cassette, might try soon.

The bike surprisingly works very well given the cheap pricing.

[rasch]

Actually I spoke with them and they are willing to sell just the cassette, around 150usd. Just that you won't be able to mount it on standard hubs which defeats the purpose.

So far I have yet to change to another cassette, might try soon.

The bike surprisingly works very well given the cheap pricing.

Which bike is it? Can you share so pics and details on pricing and shipping?

[Ludo]

Very first post of the thread has the info x43

[JonMS]

Actually I spoke with them and they are willing to sell just the cassette, around 150usd. Just that you won't be able to mount it on standard hubs which defeats the purpose.

So far I have yet to change to another cassette, might try soon.

The bike surprisingly works very well given the cheap pricing.

Curious if this is because you already own the bike. I reached out via their website, aliexpress, and taobao. All responses were no.

[TidyDinosaur]

Curious if this is because you already own the bike. I reached out via their website, aliexpress, and taobao. All responses were no.

Would make sense since if you don't have the bike you can not install the cassette. And than they would get bad reviews for selling those cassettes that do not fit...

[Lovewookie]

Looks like a very similar solution as the Rotor 1x13 cassettes and freehubs. Theirs however let you use a normal shimano cassette on the freehub, with their 10T sprocket screwing onto the 11 tooth and an elongated lockring securing the whole lot to the freehub. The hub was spaced similar to if you use a boost adapter on a normal 142mm rear wheel, so slightly iffy chainline, but it works.

I have a vague memory of a company in the early 90's (maybe mountain tamers) selling a small sprocket for standard (7 speed?) cassettes of the time that replaced your lockring and overhung the axle a bit...kinda reminds me of that.