IP-057 Full Build - Need Advice

[turboenterprise]

I'm looking to build a IP-057 and need some help.  This is my first full build and I need some advise on what parts to add.

Ip-057

Question on what to get:
Headset - use XMI or Cane Creek?
Fork - not sure what size 1-1/8?
               - recommendations?

XX1 - Group Set
   
Wheels - Light Bicycle all mountain


          - Pillar Aero X-TRA 1420 - spokes
          - 28h or 32h - which one?
          - Hub which one to match - Are these the right ones?
                        - Do you need an adaptor?
Hope Pro 2 hub Front
Hope Pro 2 hub Rear


Update:
Build List
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eMRzZQpDnofHlpCb8DAsYLKIf2MUE0tY3iZiCT6dvmU/edit?usp=sharing

Build notes
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bKzEmsKo2kkaUO0hJBv8vUSjgSh-j89bTXlNHX7fHfs/edit?usp=sharing

Update:
Been racing and riding now for a couple months.  Peter at XMIplay is awesome to deal with.  Quality has been great.  Any issues Peter has taken care of it.  Buy with confidence from XMIplay

[Carbon_Dude]

I'm looking to build a IP-057 and need some help.  This is my first full build and I need some advise on what parts to add.

Ip-057

Question on what to get:
Headset - use XMI or Cane Creek?
Fork - not sure what size 1-1/8?
               - recommendations?

XX1 - Group Set
   
Wheels - Light Bicycle all mountain
          - Pillar Aero X-TRA 1420 - spokes
          - 28h or 32h - which one?
          - Hub which one to match - Are these the right ones?
                        - Do you need an adaptor?
Hope Pro 2 hub Front
Hope Pro 2 hub Rear

Headset - XMIplay Neco headset works fine.
Fork - 100mm, Tapered Steer Tube 1-1/8" to 1-1/2" Reba or Fox CTD
XX1 Group - Check
Wheels - XMIplay 30MM width or 35mm width if you want something stronger but a bit heavier, 28 hole, Sapim spokes
Hubs - DT Swiss 350 Straight Pull, 6-bolt disc, FR/RR

[Sitar_Ned]

^^ Agreed on all accounts except possibly the headset. I've read reviews saying it wears out quickly. That said, i don't actually own it and Carbon_Dude does so take that for what it's worth.

Also, you'll ned to decide if you are going to go with the hookless rims or the regular. Consensus seems to be to go with the hookless, which is what I plan on doing.

[turboenterprise]

I asked lightbicycle if they can sell those hubs but it appears they don't.  http://www.light-bicycle.com/the-more-detail-about-hubs-MTB-hub-and-road-hub.html

Out of the hubs listed which is most equivalent.  I don't know a wheel builder and I am looking for as most turn key as I can get building my own bike.  If it really warrants it then wheel builder it is but I am clueless on it.   

[Carbon_Dude]

Not sure why you are stuck on Light Bikes suppling the wheels, XMIplay can build them for you.  If they do not have the hubs, buy them separately and send the hubs to them.  You asked for some input so that would be my advice, my next set of wheels will have DT Swiss hubs and 30mm Carbon Hookless rims.  Otherwise buy the hubs and rims yourself and have a LBS build the wheels for you.

[turboenterprise]

Thanks for the help.  I appreciate the advise. 

[Sitar_Ned]

Just to follow up.. I've done a fairly extensive amount of research over the past couple of months and my plan is to do pretty much as CD outlined.

Find a good price on some new or slightly used DT 350 hubs - have them sent directly from place of purchase to XMIplay, and have them lace said hubs to a set of 30mm hookless rims.

I've nothing against light bicycle, but when I was considering ordering from them a while back the delivery time was 30-45 days or something like that. So definitely inquire to that before ordering. Situation may have changed since then, though.

[Carbon_Dude]

I've got nothing against Light Bikes but if you are ordering a frame and other parts as well, might as well save some shipping/paypal fees and get everything from one Chendor .  <--- Like that SN, I got to use your word, "Chendor".

That said, Hope Pro are fine hubs, I just like the DT Swiss stuff more as they are very nicely engineered.

[Izzy]

I've got nothing against Light Bikes but if you are ordering a frame and other parts as well, might as well save some shipping/paypal fees and get everything from one Chendor .  <--- Like that SN, I got to use your word, "Chendor".

That said, Hope Pro are fine hubs, I just like the DT Swiss stuff more as they are very nicely engineered.

Whoa. Hold the train. That's my word. I am official Chindor inventor guy

[Sitar_Ned]

He speaks the truth..

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,20.0.html

But I am a full supporter of the adoption of the word. I mean.. what are they technically supposed to be called? Chinese carbon vendors? Suppliers? Manufacturers? Not sure, really. Chindor works for me, or Chendor, either one lol. 

[turboenterprise]

What you do think? Its been cut to 7inches.  Enough?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2014-Rock-Shox-Reba-RL-29er-100mm-Solo-Air-15mm-Maxle-Tapered-Steertube-/251530262911?pt=US_Forks&hash=item3a905f397f

[Sitar_Ned]

Looks like a decent deal, but I'd pass on the pre-cut to seven inches thing.

In the below pic, I have the end piece of the tape measure in the groove between the headtube and forks. So while this may not be precisely accurate, it would only be off by a few centimeters at most:



So, if you know for an absolute fact that you want the stem sitting all the way down, it looks like it would work.

Depending on your time frame, I say wait. One thing I learned when I was building my bike was to never say "Okay, I'm going to buy the forks/handlebars/wheels next".. instead just watch for sales and the best deals on everything and buy what's most discounted. In other words.. if there's no rush on the fork, I think you can find a better deal. Especially considering the lack of cock pit adjustment options that pre-cut steerer will give you.

[Sitar_Ned]

For instance: Here is a ridiculous deal on a high end Easton stem (if you wanted 100mm): http://www.pricepoint.com/Brand/Easton/Easton-Haven-Stem-2012.axd?gclid=CjkKEQjw-uubBRDs6rqExIXy7ZsBEiQACq4FqeTvGSpLvJn_QqaRftPocIk4pSk3bvySnwCW6UXox1zw_wcB

Thinking about buying one myself. Sorry to go off topic a bit, but figured you might also be needing a stem.

[Chinertown Idiot]

Looks you might would be able to get a 5mm spacer on there..

[Carbon_Dude]

I think the steer tubes on both my bikes are at least 7-1/2" long as well.  It's difficult to buy a used fork and know that it will work, and know that it does not need to be serviced as soon as you get it.