Hardcore Hardtails?

[Confused]

I am after something with modern geometry that supports a 140-150mm travel fork.  An XL size for the 6'4" types is a must. Any recommendations?  Specs from an aluminum frame - Nukeproof scout, for reference.

      
   Extra Large
Seat Tube Length      510mm
Top Tube (Virtual)      671mm
Head Tube                          110mm
Head Tube Angle                 66°
Wheelbase                          1227mm
Chainstay Length             440mm
Seat Tube Angle   Degrees   73°
Bottom Bracket Height   -70mm
Reach                            475mm
Stack                                 598mm

[bmarty8]

I have been looking for similar frames and I've found these two. If you added a headset that slackened the head angle and/or a longer fork you could get pretty close to the geo of the Nukeproof.  It would still be shorter travel, but these have a more aggressive HA than most.


https://www.workswellbikes.com/XC/wcb-m-336(29er).html


https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Airwolf-Hardtail-Nice-Looking-148mm-Axle_1600178836027.html?spm=a2700.galleryofferlist.normal_offer.d_title.5a384218SWmnQu

[Confused]

The Workswell has a lot going for it.  The 27.2 seat tube is a limitation.  It would probably be ok with a 120 fork, but longer may start throwing off other geometry.  Recent quote from them - $519/frame plus $250 US shipping.

Interesting chainstay on the Airwolf.  The threads on here discussing warranty issues with some of their frames had me concerned.  Trying out a highball clone with a bigger fork was one consideration - $280 shipped made it less of a gamble.

[Jotegr]

Perhaps consider a Waltly or one of their competitors? You can pick whatever geo you want.

[Confused]

A few XLs - all for 100mm travel.  Switching to a 140mm fork shifts angles, slackens ST and HT angles, raises bb, incites anger in purists, and causes cosmic anomalies.  However, it might make the frame closer to a hardcore hardtail.

Haideli M030- http://www.haidelibikes.com/product/showproduct.php?id=122  (similar to last iteration of S-works elite frame)

Lightcarbon LCM 908 https://lightcarbon.en.alibaba.com/product/60514746796-803172623/LightCarbon_29er_Carbon_Frame_Mountain_Bicycle_Frame_BB92_Pressfit_Bottom_Bracket_LCM908.html

Airwolf YFM026 (Santa Cruz Highball dimensions)

[was8v]

I think you are out of luck, they just seem to do xc geo

I have the airwolf, its no hardcore hardtailm its a highball copy, an xc bike

I'd just get an alloy on-one scandal, check their ebay for seconds, frames are £250 there

[Confused]

Thanks for the heads up on the ebay site.  PlanetX ships to US from their website but the ebay store seems finnicky about allowing it. 

[Chamomile]

[off]Don't we have the same topic a few lines below?[/off]

[emu26]

[off]Don't we have the same topic a few lines below?[/off]

That would depend if "hardcore" is also "modern"

http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,3131.0.html