Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831

Started by Sowers711, October 21, 2019, 08:42:52 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

emu26

Look how short the reach is on that though, 584mm in a size 19", and that's not even through the centre of the BB

bruto

reach is the C measurement, you're looking at ETT
yeah it's not for overly tall people, but good enough for me at 1.80m

emu26

Sorry, yes I meant ETT., Reach is obviously shorter again


numberzero

#50
Quote from: bruto on December 03, 2019, 09:31:07 AM
for the record, this is VPP too: https://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Crazy-Bike-Tech-from-Taichung-Bike-Week,12690/550-Open-Mold-Trail-Bike-Frame,134304/sspomer,2
and is 2 years old now
also sold for 600 by http://www.ltbikes.com/product/100.html
or more, if you want it with a shock and branded: https://www.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Crazy-Bike-Tech-from-Taichung-Bike-Week,12690/DaBomb-27-5-Trail-Bike,134257/sspomer,2

This thing is a single pivot design based on a flexing rear triangle.
On a VPP there is an additionnal link between rear and front.

bruto

You would have a pretty hard time trying to flex a solid rear triangle like that ;)
the lower link is backwards, hugging the down tube and its rear pivot is obscured by the rear triangle, but the drawing shows where it is
http://www.apexcreative.com.tw/files/CF7-213_GK.jpg

numberzero

Quote from: bruto on December 04, 2019, 07:09:58 AM
You would have a pretty hard time trying to flex a solid rear triangle like that ;)
the lower link is backwards, hugging the down tube and its rear pivot is obscured by the rear triangle, but the drawing shows where it is
http://www.apexcreative.com.tw/files/CF7-213_GK.jpg
Did you have the frame in hand or did you see what's supposed to be hidden?
I can only imagine something like the yeti suspension with an eccentric or the updated switch infinity system.

bruto

that would be way too complicated for $600 :) and still protected by the patents, I bet
I judge by the the photos - the show enough to see that it's not a flex stay design and the drawing shows all pivots

bruto

here's the PDF chart showing all the links

scourge

Anyone know what size shock it's going to use yet? I could be in if I could salvege parts off my current bike.

Flo7

210x55mm



Santa Cruz are using 210x52,5mm

scourge

Thank you for the reply. My shock won't work, but I'm still considering this frame.

scourge

Quote from: Flo7 on November 01, 2019, 09:54:57 AM
So new Message von Miracle->

Price 669USD for 1pc and  the Price 469USD is for MOQ 10 PCS!

That price for 10 frames is fantastic. 

scourge

Anyone know if haideli offers options on the frames like headsets etc.? What about paint jobs? Not that I mind all black. I'll chat with them, but I figured I'd ask here first.