Chinese Santa Cruz/AM831

Sowers711 · October 21, 2019, 08:42:52 PM

this was on Vital mtb but they gave no info. Does anybody know anything about it?

Sowers711 · October 21, 2019, 08:46:01 PM

Sorry for the way the photo looks, first post.

GreyCactus · October 23, 2019, 09:09:12 PM

Also interested!

emu26 · October 23, 2019, 11:09:23 PM

Sowers, did you think to get a photo of the geo chart on the wall next to it? If so can you post it up please?

Bos · October 24, 2019, 08:42:54 AM

That Front end looks like a 3D print or some resin cast. The white inside the BB gives it away.

The rear end might be carbon. Maybe still in development?

My gut feel is Santacruz will shut this down very quickly.

Sowers711 · October 24, 2019, 10:31:47 AM

Sorry, that was the only pic they had of it. Can't make out the geo. All they said was $600 open mold trail bike frame

https://m.vitalmtb.com/photos/features/Crazy-Bike-Tech-from-Taichung-Bike-Week,12690/600-Open-Mold-Trail-Bike-Frame,134274/sspomer,2

emu26 · October 24, 2019, 02:30:44 PM

Quote from: Bos on October 24, 2019, 08:42:54 AM
That Front end looks like a 3D print or some resin cast. The white inside the BB gives it away.

The rear end might be carbon. Maybe still in development?

My gut feel is Santacruz will shut this down very quickly.

That makes sense, the white is at the seat post collar as well. I noticed the white at the bb shell before but thought it must have been a one piece shell running through the frame bonded to the cf unlike the two pieces of cf tube you often see bonded to the either side of the bb area but what you have said is much more logical.

scourge · October 25, 2019, 12:50:17 AM

Very interested in this

ReverendRockRazor · October 25, 2019, 12:31:32 PM

Quote from: Bos on October 24, 2019, 08:42:54 AM
That Front end looks like a 3D print or some resin cast. The white inside the BB gives it away.

The rear end might be carbon. Maybe still in development?

My gut feel is Santacruz will shut this down very quickly.

They have no means to shut it down. Vpp patent is over. You can't patent Geo so what exactly will they go after them for?

ReverendRockRazor · October 25, 2019, 12:33:24 PM

Was only a matter of time that the chinese caught up on geo.vpp patent expired I was actually wondering what was taking them so long to show a vpp bike.

Sowers711 · October 25, 2019, 04:23:31 PM

Any word on manufacturer yet? I'm really interested in this frame.

ChinaCruz · October 27, 2019, 12:59:16 PM

Oh yes. Then I can get a "real" China Cruz

emu26 · October 27, 2019, 03:02:24 PM

Sowers, there is a thread here somewhere about another china frame and there was a comment in it about Vital MTB using it as one of their bikes. I'm betting it will be the same manufacturer so all you have to do is chase down that other thread.

Sorry, I have no idea what forum it was in but I generally look at the 29er, 27.5 and 29 er plus size and 27.5 forums so I think it will be in one of those three. Try googling Vital MTB china frame. Otherwise some reading this might remember and chime in.

Sowers711 · October 27, 2019, 09:48:59 PM

Thanks, I'll start looking.

emu26 · October 28, 2019, 04:49:07 AM

I had a quick look and couldn't see it. You might be best looking at the Vital MTB site and see which of their frames looks familiar.