Author Topic: Carbonda Cfr 1056  (Read 120206 times)

uluvas

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #15 on: October 14, 2020, 01:25:42 AM »
The frame looks really nice, i'm not sure yet whether to go for the cfr696 oder cfr1056. As i want to ride mainly endurance on the road maybe the cfr1056 is the better choice.
How much did you pay for the frame?

vince_73

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2020, 02:17:02 AM »
Hi Uluvas,
The frame cost me 668€ including paint job (~115€) shipment and Alibaba fees. The best for you is to have an quote from Adam.
Vincent

uluvas

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #17 on: October 20, 2020, 04:16:54 AM »
Hi Vincent,

do you know when your bike is expected to arrive?
I guess i will order a CFR1056 soon (and some wheels) but would like to wait until yours arrived. Maybe you can say something about the bike and post some more pictures, once it arrived. What groupset do you plan to use?

vince_73

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2020, 03:41:11 PM »
Hi, as far as I know, the frame left China last week and it would take between 10 and 35 days to be in France.
I also ordered some wheels from Light Bicycle with DT240EXP  hubs. The groupset will be an Ultegra R 8020.
I  bought a cyrano R1 handlebar and I expect the complete bike  to be around 7.5kg. I will post some photos of the components and the assembly.

uluvas

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2020, 01:52:11 AM »
I want to order the frame now as well, but im not quite sure yet which size fits the best. Vincent what is you size and stride length? Im 183cm and have 89cm stride length. Do you think size L fits good for an sportive endurance road bike?

adriaanm

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2020, 02:01:13 AM »
The way I approached this is to look for similar geos here: https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/canyon-endurace-cf-sl-disc-8-0-2020-m,carbonda-cfr-1056-2020-m,giant-defy-advanced-pro-2-2020-m,specialized-roubaix-pro-2020-54,merida-scultura-endurance-5000-2021-51/ (This is for medium, but it's just to look for comparables. Also, you can actually search by numbers for a small fee.)

Then I went to the websites of those manufacturers and entered my measurements to get a recommendation (My size would be an S for my 172cm height / 80cm inseam). If you'd like to get more visual about it, you can import those numbers (manually) into bikegeocalc.com

vince_73

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2020, 10:43:25 AM »
I have done the same, I entered my dimensions (height 188cm, inseam 89cm) on a manufacturer website and see which size was recommanded. Then I chose the right size. 58 is perhaps a bit to large for me but will be more comfortable for long rides. For you Uluvas, 56 should be better, but I am not an ergonomy specialist.

carbonazza

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2020, 01:32:21 PM »
Then I went to the websites of those manufacturers and entered my measurements to get a recommendation (My size would be an S for my 172cm height / 80cm inseam). If you'd like to get more visual about it, you can import those numbers (manually) into bikegeocalc.com

A S will drop your bar lower compared to the same saddle height on a M.
You need to know if you are flexible enough to have your hand that low for few hours rides.
But a S will have your bar nearer the saddle than a M, so you may end up less stretched to grab the hoods.

A S if too small for you, can have a longer stem and a seatpost with offset.
And you can usually put about 3cm of spacers max below the stem if too low.

A M if too big is trickier.
Straight seatpost and shorter stem are less ideal for handling.

For comparison, I have both a Canyon Ultimate and Carbonda CFR505 in M(54) both with a 90mm stem and straight seatpost, no spacers.
Canyon were hesitating between a S and M, when I contacted them.
And I'm 178cm/89cm inseam. So very roughly about 3cm shorter torso than you  :o
My saddle is set at 76.5cm (BB/top of the saddle)

It looks difficult, but if you do your homework, it isn't that complex.
The good news is that as you look to be between two sizes, both will work with some eventual adaptations  ;)
My son, is your size more or less and rides a Carbonda CFR505 S with a 110mm stem.
I took it for a ride once, and it didn't feel strange.

adriaanm

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2020, 02:17:22 PM »
Thanks for the advice carbonazza! Excellent points on the fit. Will definitely keep this in mind while I continue my research (I'm planning to order in March next year).

If you're curious, my homework had already been to make a visual comparison between size S and M, as well as between my current road bike (a 2004 bmc street fire M) and the cfr-1056 S.

I'm currently enjoying my steel gravel bike (an octane one kode in size M) until the weather gets better for road riding again here in Lausanne.

uluvas

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2020, 09:04:15 AM »
So you guys think i should choose the size 56 and maybe a long stem right?
Adam from Carbonda recommendet a size 58 but im quite unsure. I want to sit more sporty on the bike. On Canyon Website when i enter my height and inseam it recomments size M and if i slightly increase my height it recoments a size L. And the Carbonda 1056 in 58 is smaller than the Endurace in size L so im thinking the size 58 might be the right choice for me.
I finally selected my painting and accessories so i probably want to order this weekend.
« Last Edit: November 14, 2020, 09:32:45 AM by uluvas »

adriaanm

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #25 on: November 15, 2020, 02:58:00 AM »
I'm not a expert, but I'll share my thoughts on the differences between those sizes... Feel free to correct me if I got something wrong -- I'm still learning.

The main things that stand out to me between the L and XL for the CFR-1056 are:
  • stack: the XL has a stack figure that's 21mm higher than the L, so that's kind of like 21mm of "headset spacers" that you cannot remove, so even with a slammed stem, you'll be sitting slightly more upright on the XL (given that your saddle position would be the same between the two bikes)
  • seat tube length: the XL is 3cm longer, which again all things being equal, means that you'll have 3cm less of exposed seatpost, which means slightly less flex / comfort. Not sure you'll feel that, but still calling it out. 
  • the XL's longer wheelbase will make it more stable at speed, but a bit less nimble

I don't think the differences in reach are a big deal (less than 10mm): if you want longer reach on the L, use a 110mm stem instead of a 100mm one?

Good luck with the decision!

Bonpensiero

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #26 on: November 20, 2020, 11:19:59 AM »
I look forward for your feedback, especially the tire clearance, if 32mm is a conservative limit or if it is tight.

Tire clearance looks good. I tested a 40mm Continental Terra Trail up front. Fits!
But not in the back. But with a Pasela in 35mm it works and there is still space.




Rim is a Hydra from H Plus Son. The painted frame (sizes s) weighs 1150 g, the fork 520 g.
« Last Edit: November 20, 2020, 11:22:15 AM by Bonpensiero »

carbonazza

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #27 on: November 20, 2020, 04:36:36 PM »
More pictures !  ;)

Bonpensiero

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2020, 09:15:36 AM »
First the bike has to be set up. When the time comes, there will be pictures.  :)

But here are some pictures of the painted frame:



vince_73

Re: Carbonda Cfr 1056
« Reply #29 on: December 07, 2020, 03:09:00 PM »
Hello,  a picture of the assembly beginning. Unfortunately, the wheels will take one more month to come due to transport issues. So I buy a set of nearly new mavic I have mount with 32mm Hutchinson Sector tyres for winter ans hard conditions.
I will try to make a more complete set of pictures.