Carbonda Cfr 1056

[volan]

Dear riders, I would like your precious advice on the road bike components and frame. I am in mtb for 4 years now, and would like to give a go with road bike as well.

I have good experience with fm936 frame and build. I have also good experience with ali components; bars, stems, seatposts...

1. So my first question is, what carbonda road frame would you suggest for a starter roadie?

2. What is the best option for wheels and groupset?

a)Since I have some experience with wheel building so wouldn't be a problem to order hubs/rims and spokes and make my own wheels. My safe bet for my mtb bikes was dt rims (471,391...) and ali hubs (ztto, goldix). Are dt aluminum rim ok for a starter or is it better to go carbon straigh away?

b)I noticed that brake levers/shifters from shimano/sram are SOOOO expensive, so I am thinking about getting ltwoo levers/shifters. Is that good choice?

I will be having more questions, hopefully will get an answer.

[Takiyaki]

Is this an endurance frame? I don't understand the geometry.

[mariopetit]

Hi all. I wanted to share a pic of my completed CFR1056 build as well as thank everyone for the contributions to this thread that helped me figure it all out. This is my first bike build, so there was a ton of learning in the process. A particular thank you to "2old2mould" for sharing his file for design that I leveraged in communicating with Wing. Details on what I ended up with:

The big stuff:
Frame: FM1056 Size M. (I'm 5'10 w/ 32" inseam and not super fit/flexy). Internal routing. 2-tone paint glossy.
Bottom Bracket: BSA-68
Groupset: Shimano 105 r7000. Hydraulic disc brakes, 11 speed.
Wheels: Elitewheels ENT Disc. 45mm depth; 28mm external width. Tubeless compatible.
Tires: Continental Grand Prix S TR - 28mm
Power Meter: Stages L Side for Shimano r7000
Stem: FSA SMR ACR Stem - 90mm    
Headset: NO. 55R 1.5" ACR STD
Handlebar: Ritchey WCS Streem Internal Routing Handlebar
Pedals: SHIMANO PDM520 Clipless SPD

The little stuff:
Hydraulic Hoses: Shimano SM-BH90 Disc Brake Hose
Shifter Cables: Shimano Dura-Ace R9100 Shift Cable Set
Tubeless Tape: Zukka Tubeless Tape 23mm
Handlebar Pads: Selle Italia Bar Tape Shock Absorbing Pads
Bar Tape: Domain Cycling Handlebar Tape & Bar Ends (94" x 1.2")

Build Learnings: Building the bike was an adventure and YouTube intensive. I had three major issues. First, an end cap for the front wheel hub went missing during the build, and since I didn't know better, I didn't realize a part was missing. This required finding a replacement. As the wheels are from a China based company, that took a lot of work to get sorted out. Checking for loose pieces everywhere before throwing out packaging would have saved me from this. Second, the original lock ring I had for the front brake rotor was too large and rubbed against the fork. I had to swap to a TRP Centerlock ring that was angled (narrow on the outside edge) to create space. Third, the holes for the rear brake caliper were slightly misaligned. This created rub between the brake pads and the rotor even without squeezing the brake levers. My local bike shop was unable to fix this issue, and Wing wasn't responsive. After ~50 miles of riding, the brake pads wore down a bit to allow free movement, but it feels like riding into a headwind until that happens. Will be annoying with each new set of pads. Fourth, while I wanted to go fully integrated, I wasn't sure on fit and feel. So I used the semi-integrated cabling route through the stem to allow some extra cable length. Once I've dialed everything in, I may go through the effort of routing through the handlebar directly and going fully integrated.

I did have my local shop complete an inspection/tune on the bike before riding it, and they found a few mistakes I made and corrected them. I highly recommend going that route if this is your first build or you lack 100% confidence in your skills. Overall, great experience.

Hi! Where did you buy FSA components? (Stem: FSA SMR ACR Stem - 90mm    
Headset: NO. 55R 1.5" ACR STD and the spacers)
Thanks!

[JohnnyRabbit]

Is this an endurance frame? I don't understand the geometry.

Yes, very close to the Cannondale Synapse geometry.

[wichrvod]

Hi,
Please give me the advise, which size will be better S or M? I'm 175cm and 84cm inseam. Im pretty much sure, that M will be suitable, but have some concerns about the geometry. Previously I rode on Canyon Endurace size S, but here except 0.5 degree steeper seat angle, and 9mm taller head tube size M is more less same sizing as S in Canyon.
I'm also considering handlebar from Carbonda? Worth it?

[jstrawks]

Hi,
Please give me the advise, which size will be better S or M? I'm 175cm and 84cm inseam. Im pretty much sure, that M will be suitable, but have some concerns about the geometry. Previously I rode on Canyon Endurace size S, but here except 0.5 degree steeper seat angle, and 9mm taller head tube size M is more less same sizing as S in Canyon.
I'm also considering handlebar from Carbonda? Worth it?

I'm your height and I bought a medium. Sometimes I think I should have chosen the small, sometimes I don't. It's that borderline.

I didn't use Carbonda's headset, stem or bars, so I don't have an opinion about their bars.

[carbonazza]

how is your project going?  I would like to make one too based on this frame.

Sorry for the long delay 
The person went for a 1136 instead, BSA BB, with Rival AXS shifters, WR40 lightbicycle wheelset, Force crankset and derailleurs.
The integrated handlebar from Carbonda is great if you know the stem length you need upfront.

[msm626]

Hi! Where did you buy FSA components? (Stem: FSA SMR ACR Stem - 90mm    
Headset: NO. 55R 1.5" ACR STD and the spacers)
Thanks!

Right here: https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/fsa-smr-acr-stem and https://www.fsaproshop.com/products/no-55r-1-5-acr-std

[msm626]

I had to reface the rear brake mounts on mine.

Been a long time, but following up. I had another shop reface the rear brake mounts. Since I and the first shop tried to force fit bolts, we caused some damage, but it wasn't too problematic. The resurfacing worked great, and the bike rides perfectly now. I've completed a few centuries on it and love how it feels.

[jstrawks]

Yesterday I fitted a pair of Spinergy GXX gravel wheels to my CFR-1056. They have 35mm Schwalbe G-One Allroads mounted. They fit beautifully.

[kosmonaut75]

Hello,

I am brand new here and very interested in the CFR 1056. The size M should fit me perfectly at 179cm and 87cm inseam. But I'm really torn and wonder if I should take the risk, since there are obviously some issues with quality at Carbonda:

1) I have a CFR 696, where the seatpost sags (already tried 4).
2) I read at @msm626 post "the holes for the rear brake caliper were slightly misaligned...". In this case I would be completely lost, since I am a relatively inexperienced hobby mechanic and in such a case even the bike dealer could possibly not help. 700 bucks for nothing...

How big do you estimate the risk, what are your experiences with quality assurance at Carbonda?

By the way: Great forum here 

[carbonazza]

If you look hard enough you'll find horror stories about any brand.
Carbonda is one of the builder that has high quality products and service.
Sometimes bad luck strikes, but they generally stand behind their products.

[mikeleeob]

Hello,

I am brand new here and very interested in the CFR 1056. The size M should fit me perfectly at 179cm and 87cm inseam. But I'm really torn and wonder if I should take the risk, since there are obviously some issues with quality at Carbonda:

1) I have a CFR 696, where the seatpost sags (already tried 4).
2) I read at @msm626 post "the holes for the rear brake caliper were slightly misaligned...". In this case I would be completely lost, since I am a relatively inexperienced hobby mechanic and in such a case even the bike dealer could possibly not help. 700 bucks for nothing...

How big do you estimate the risk, what are your experiences with quality assurance at Carbonda?

By the way: Great forum here 

This is my second bike and the first bike that I built. There is no tolerance issue with the frame.
My only suggestion is to try not to buy the integrated handlebar if you are not certain about your geometry. I took the shortcut and now find out the reach is a little bit long, but not terribly long that needs to redo all the work.

[Specialf.]

Good evening everyone, in the meantime I have received my crf 1056 size XL and I have also assembled it.
Sram Force groupset, Senixc PR3 BB BSA crankset, DT Suisse PR1400 Dicut wheels and Aliexpress handlebar because the Carbonda one didn't have the measurements I wanted.
Transparent matt paint on UD carbon.

No assembly problems, no irregularities.
Carbonda very fast and courteous communication via Skype, they send photos in real time.
excellent finishes, only flaw, painting times a little long.







I need to replace the headset spacers, do you have any advice on where to find them?

[timotheos]

Hi All, just wanted to share my 1056 build.

Size: 58 (XL). I'm 188cm (6'2"), inseam 90cm, armspan 186cm
Happy with sizing, probably could've gone with Large but due to my shorter arm length I wanted the taller stack of the XL, plus wanted to use for some gravel so guessed longer wheelbase wouldn't be bad.

Frame: Purple Gold chameleon paint, the gold really only shows in bright sunlight, it's subtle, I like it. There's a few lumps that could've been filled/sanded better, but kindof expected at this price point. Got them to fill in the cable holes. Am running cables through headset, using FSA no69 which works fine. Wish the cable hole through the fork would fit the compression nut, to make fork removal easy, guessing that's probably same for any frame, and prob not feasible.

Components: picked up a 3T strada build kit cheap here in Aus. Force 1x, Carbon cranks, 3T carbon wheels & bars. Went with 44T x 11-42 which is perfect for my use.

Tyres: Tufo Thundero 36 (on 18.2mm internal rim). Had to take some scissors to the side knobs on the rear to give myself comfortable space. Still yet to have tyre touch frame, zero scratches even when caked with mud. Added protective tape just in case.
WTB Byway 34 fits great. Maxxis Rambler 38 fit front but not rear.

Weight: currently 8kg without pedals. XL Frame w axle = 1180g, Fork w axle uncut = 508g

Riding: overall this is my new favourite, been doing apx 80/20 tarmac/gravel. It's such an amazing feeling to be on something that's lightweight, fast, and can go literally anywhere. One minute cruising down cycleways, next minute taking a shortcut through the bush on some singletrack, the versatility is just unreal. I'm getting around town soo fast now, feels like my city has become so small. Can't really comment on ride feel since I've only experienced a few alloy road bikes with skinny tyres, but yeah it just disappears underneath me, not been left disappointed or wanting in any way.

Carbonda: I've dealt with Katie for previous purchase of FM936 and now this, she's been excellent, quick to respond with thorough answers, no hassles there.