New Enduro Frame FS830

[Flo7]

Ok...since author of this post can not post link to this frame,and that frame is non exist in Miracle or Hai.... her it is

http://www.ltbikes.com/product/100.html if you buy from China...but i also noticed that frame on
http://www.apexcreative.com.tw/comm/upimage/op_181017_06776.jpg from Taiwan....

How good or bad it is you can read in this post here on Chinertown...
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,2927.0.html

Here is the link

http://www.mira-factory.com/Product/detail/id/31.html

[Gigelz]

Here is the link

http://www.mira-factory.com/Product/detail/id/31.html

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[carbonazza]

from Apex who is designer of the frame...

The quality of the geometry file is some levels higher than the ones we get usually.
Anyone can comment the values anti-squat, pedal-kickback, leverage ratio charts ?

I'm still trying to understand all this better, coming from my rigid or hardtail past and hopefully moving full suspension in the coming months 
Here is a good read about it: https://enduro-mtb.com/en/mtb-suspension-kinematics/

[swuw231]

Ok...since author of this post can not post link to this frame,and that frame is non exist in Miracle or Hai.... her it is

http://www.ltbikes.com/product/100.html if you buy from China...but i also noticed that frame on
http://www.apexcreative.com.tw/comm/upimage/op_181017_06776.jpg from Taiwan....

How good or bad it is you can read in this post here on Chinertown...
http://chinertown.com/index.php/topic,2927.0.html

I believe thats not the exactly the same frame but its quite similar tho...

[vostring]

I believe thats not the exactly the same frame but its quite similar tho...

Looks like a completely different frame to me.

[Sitar_Ned]

Yep. Ripmo, I do prefer this from fm831. However  there isnt a S size.

Yeah, I'd be pretty torn between this one and the 831. Would likely just pick the cheapest option. Or the one that is actually available. Hopefully, I should be able to pick one of the two up when I'm ready to start a new build in January after the holidays.

Either way, it's good to see longer travel, slacker geo options coming out. It took long enough.

[scourge]

If any of the frame manufacturers read these forums, WE WOULD LIKE SHORTER SEAT TUBES TO RUN LONGER DROPPERS!

[Jotegr]

If any of the frame manufacturers read these forums, WE WOULD LIKE SHORTER SEAT TUBES TO RUN LONGER DROPPERS!

These guys don't look too bad? only 1 cm taller than an Optic (one of the modern, short ones) according to the original chart. Sure, it's not Knolly short but it isn't particularly egregious. Much better than some mainstream brands right now even. The Apex bike appears to be a totally different platform with long AF seat tubes. I think this miracle/haideli bike is substantially different. It looks like everyones getting confused because these frames look similar.

[scourge]

495 on the XL seams like too long of a seat post to me. That's really my only complaint. Otherwise, the frame looks pretty good to me. Very interested in this and the Hightower clone.

[bbr]

The seat tube lenght can easily be be cut and shaven 1 1/2 to 2  cm down, i guess if there is enough request the factory can easily reconfigure this after moulding.
Its seatpost clamp cutting  is usually done after moulding. I think.

[WozCuz]

Found it on Alibaba
https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/2020-OEM-29-full-carbon-fiber_1600122152845.html?spm=a2700.9114905.0.0.XHtQB7

[Flo7]

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[Jotegr]

The seat tube lenght can easily be be cut and shaven 1 1/2 to 2  cm down, i guess if there is enough request the factory can easily reconfigure this after moulding.
Its seatpost clamp cutting  is usually done after moulding. I think.

How do you think they'd feel about adding some reinforcement for some water bottle bosses too lol?

[WozCuz]

How do you think they'd feel about adding some reinforcement for some water bottle bosses too lol?

Ive been speaking to someone via Alibaba about the frame, and have asked about water bottles. Just waiting on a reply will let you know what they say.

I also asked about the geometry and they have sent me a photo of the table out their catalogue, which just matches what was in the image in the first post

[Verbl Kint]

Quick Details

Combo Set Offered:
    5

Material:
    T800 Full carbon fiber

Foldable:
    No

Size:
    29er* 15''/17''/18.5''/21'' ( only 17'' available now)

Use:
    Mountain Bikes, suspension bicycle

Weight:
    2620+/-50g(17'')

Place of Origin:
    Guangdong, China

Brand Name:
    HAIDELI

Model Number:
    FS830 Enduro

Surface Processing Mode:
    matte/glossy

is_customized:
    Yes

Type:
    Carbon fiber frame

Model type:
    29er Enduro MTB suspension frame

Bottom Bracket:
    BB92

Frame travel:
    160mm

Fork travel:
    170mm

Rear Brake:
    post mount 200mm

Headset:
    1 1/8 to 1 1/2"

Seatpost:
    31.6mm

Suitable crankset:
    30/32/34T

Max tire size:
    29er*2.4'' tires

Rear shock:
    210*55cm



** This is copy-pasted directly from the Alibaba link above. **



Model NO.    Enduro-FS830
Size     

29er* 15''/17''/18.5''/21'' ( only 17'' available now)
Travel     frame travel: 160mm, fork travel: 170mm
Max tire size     29er/29er boost*2.35'',  27.5er plus*3.0'' tires
Rear shock CC    

210*55cm
Brake type     post mount 200mm
Thru axle size     148*12mm
Cable Routing    Internal Cable
Suitable crankset    30/32/34T
Weight    at least 2620g+/-50g (17'')
Bottom bracket      BB92
Max tire size    

29er*2.4'' tires
Headset Tube     1 1/8 to 1 1/2, Tapered
Seat Tube      31.6mm 
Including    frame+clamp+headset+BB+thru axle shaft (excluding shock absorber)


** This is copy-pasted directly from the Alibaba link above. **