Author Topic: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame  (Read 68169 times)

Adilka

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2021, 01:23:57 AM »
Is there any way to configure this frame through different mounting spacers to have the shock right side up? Not a big deal. But it might be easier to switch the shock platform lever if one wanted to if it were on top.

Only if You can make new rocker link - so it will be trunnion spacing on top (54mm spacing with M10 bolt hole) - now it is 30mm x 8mm bolt

Shredder

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2021, 02:48:26 AM »
Any updates? Shredder?

Got it :D, I still have some work to do on it so I've been riding only in the city for now (when it will be trail ready i will post some nice pics with with the trail view)

So far it feels absolutely great,
but I'm not a bike expert and it is my first full-sus, modern geo bike,
I pedal with the shock open and don't really notice it (maybe i just set it to be too firm (~25% sag))
even tho i set my handle bar way to high it climbs better than my smaller hardtail prob because the sit, feels more inwards
the sitting position feels comfortable (i did around 90Km so far) but that can change when i will adjust the handle bar height
the only downside is my tires rolling resistance (2.5 and 2.4 DHF/DHR) which is a drag in the city :P
« Last Edit: November 03, 2021, 04:33:45 PM by Shredder »

ESC

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2021, 04:30:28 PM »
I just order one of these for my partner. Pretty excited to see how it goes.

@Adilka what shock hardware did you have to buy? All I was told is 30 x 8mm which I assume is just the bushings for the non trunnion end. Did you need to buy any bolts?

Shredder

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #33 on: November 07, 2021, 03:25:21 PM »
I just order one of these for my partner. Pretty excited to see how it goes.

@Adilka what shock hardware did you have to buy? All I was told is 30 x 8mm which I assume is just the bushings for the non trunnion end. Did you need to buy any bolts?

My shock (rockshox) already had this type of bushing - https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.shopify.com%2Fs%2Ffiles%2F1%2F2079%2F8541%2Fproducts%2FFox_Bushings_09596194-38d6-43af-a6d7-9e929ea59c86.jpg%3Fv%3D1571332205&f=1&nofb=1

all i needed was this mounting hardware (for DVO but it suppose to be cross compatible) https://www.ebay.com/itm/265294187627?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=565153263488&_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649

was a pain to insert into the bushing tho, so maybe buy one of these tools (didn't get the chance to try it tho) - https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005001318124909.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.52624c4dga6vSm (i think this tool is for inserting the bushing and not the mounting hardware into the bushing)

P.S - the ebay link uses FedEx as the shipping company, I REALLY recommend to avoid using them as the carrier!
« Last Edit: November 07, 2021, 03:30:37 PM by Shredder »



victorike

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #36 on: November 20, 2021, 12:01:35 PM »
Which color is that??

I don't know what kind of gray it is.

FullCarbonAlchemist

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2021, 03:23:48 PM »


My 1002 build

more photos here: https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtHxZr8ACjmhg7kATvILytfKYfG8bw?e=ulsS3q

What fork is that? The adjusters/valves on the right leg look familiar but I can’t remember which brand that is.

GreyCactus

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #38 on: November 24, 2021, 02:34:02 PM »
What fork is that? The adjusters/valves on the right leg look familiar but I can’t remember which brand that is.
Formula

Flo7

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #39 on: November 26, 2021, 12:02:58 AM »
Hi, which size would you choose for 170cm Bodyheight?

FullCarbonAlchemist

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #40 on: November 26, 2021, 12:19:40 AM »
Hi, which size would you choose for 170cm Bodyheight?

Depends a bit on your proportions (whether you have long or short legs, prefer a long or short reach etc). If this was the FM1001/1156 135mm version we were talking about, that runs about a size small in terms of reach so you’d probably be between a medium and large.

Looking at the numbers, the 1002/1166 runs more or less similar to typical progressive enduro bike sizing so you’d probably be a Medium for this bike.

Shredder

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #41 on: November 26, 2021, 07:49:03 AM »
Finally went to the trails so here some pictures of the final build, it better at everything compared to my hardtail (especially the climbs maybe because the 41mm offset fork) I wonder how it compares to other bikes, I need to ask people on the trail to give some features a try using my bike I think, someone climbed something that looked like a 80cm vertical rock on his bike..

FullCarbonAlchemist

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #42 on: December 02, 2021, 11:44:23 PM »
Any 1002 owners tried a coil shock? I like being able to see sag and travel use easily on an air shock, but the ~2.5 average leverage on the 1001/1002 seems like it would work well with coils.

A Marzocchi Bomber CR is less expensive as well as more reliably serviced by my local shops than my preferred air shock, a DVO Topaz…and either way, I’m probably looking at a Marzocchi Z1 fork for this build, either air or coil.

I want my first unbranded build to be lighter than my current 27.5 enduro bike (likely upwards of 38lbs, haven’t weighed it lately), but I also ride a lot of harsh stuff and have severe arthritis so coils are appealing.

Julian

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #43 on: December 03, 2021, 01:47:03 AM »
Any 1002 owners tried a coil shock? I like being able to see sag and travel use easily on an air shock, but the ~2.5 average leverage on the 1001/1002 seems like it would work well with coils.

A Marzocchi Bomber CR is less expensive as well as more reliably serviced by my local shops than my preferred air shock, a DVO Topaz…and either way, I’m probably looking at a Marzocchi Z1 fork for this build, either air or coil.

I want my first unbranded build to be lighter than my current 27.5 enduro bike (likely upwards of 38lbs, haven’t weighed it lately), but I also ride a lot of harsh stuff and have severe arthritis so coils are appealing.

The average leverage ratio doesn't tell you how well a coil shock would perform.

For a coil shock to work well, you typically need a rather progressive leverage curve since coils are perfectly linear (unless it's a progressive spring, dunno how progressive they really are though).

The 1001/1002 have rather linear leverage curves, the latter being slightly more progressive. But I would imagine that it's not enough for a coil shock.

For example the new Canyon Spectral Mullet has a coil and some testers say that it's not progressive enough. And that's waaay more progressive than either 1001 or 1002.

FullCarbonAlchemist

Re: FM1002 / FM1166 - 150mm frame
« Reply #44 on: December 03, 2021, 02:42:45 AM »
Good point. I’m aware of the relation between spring and leverage curves, I was just trying to keep my question relatively short — and coming from a GT Force (avg leverage 2.79 and only moderately progressive), I was thinking of the fact that even the max 700lb coil felt too soft for me on that bike with the limited support the Bomber CR damper gives.

Looking at the kinematics graphs for these bikes, I thought maybe it was progressive enough given the low average, at least for a progressive coil rather than a regular linear one. But the context you gave made me look again and I definitely take your point. The dip near the end of travel in particular isn’t great for coils.

The average leverage also had me thinking of damping, as the main 185x55 air shock I have to spare is a DPX2 with standard Medium tune. That was overdamped for my Force (different models/years have shipped with both Low and Medium tunes), so I was thinking less leverage meant it would be even more overdamped for a 1001. But of course you reminded me that it’s not that straightforward, the curve matters here too.

I might just get a 1002 and a DVO Topaz for it — the same stock damping tune that helped my Force because it’s lighter than Fox or RS’ Mediums, and it’s very tunable for different spring curves — but I wanted to think through all the possibilities before I gave up on using one of my existing 185x55 shocks with a 1001.
« Last Edit: December 03, 2021, 02:46:30 AM by FullCarbonAlchemist »