Author Topic: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame  (Read 271317 times)

vtsteevo

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #585 on: September 16, 2021, 10:00:06 AM »
Hey guys, first post. Looking for a size recommendation with this frame before I order. I am 5'8" on a 54 Cannondale Supersix Evo right now, with 100mm stem, 0 offset seatpost.
VBR-168 has a 4mm longer reach, but effective top tube is 4mm shorter. Good there.  However VBR-168 has that 20mm offset seatpost, so that will throw things off. Contemplating ordering a 52, but not sure how the much lower stack height on the 52 will come into play.  Appreciate the advice!

Geo Comparison:
https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/cannondale-supersix-evo-2013-54,velobuild-vb-r-168-2021-54,velobuild-vb-r-168-2021-52/

renrew

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #586 on: September 16, 2021, 12:42:53 PM »
Hi! I'm new here. I have ordered this frame from velobuild, and it is going to arrive any day. My question is for any of you guys who did a sram etap axs build. What bottom bracket did you use? I am reading that bb86 frames mixed with dub crankset is less than optimal do to the necessity of using thinner bearings. I'm looking at the token ninja vs the sram dub. Any negative experience with the dub cranksets in this frame? Thanks

that's perfect



my Velobuild with SRAM etape




roghax85

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #587 on: September 16, 2021, 03:51:03 PM »
Hi! I'm new here. I have ordered this frame from velobuild, and it is going to arrive any day. My question is for any of you guys who did a sram etap axs build. What bottom bracket did you use? I am reading that bb86 frames mixed with dub crankset is less than optimal do to the necessity of using thinner bearings. I'm looking at the token ninja vs the sram dub. Any negative experience with the dub cranksets in this frame? Thanks
you need this for dub https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07NP2GCNN

let me know how work dub in bb86, Chris told me isn´t recomend, just shimano 24mm spindle

Regards

FHS

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #588 on: September 16, 2021, 04:34:53 PM »
Hi! I'm new here. I have ordered this frame from velobuild, and it is going to arrive any day. My question is for any of you guys who did a sram etap axs build. What bottom bracket did you use? I am reading that bb86 frames mixed with dub crankset is less than optimal do to the necessity of using thinner bearings. I'm looking at the token ninja vs the sram dub. Any negative experience with the dub cranksets in this frame? Thanks

Hi! Grats!

I have a pressfit Shimano on my frame, not a Velobuild, but the same BB specs for all intents and purposes I imagine. I installed a DUB BB for my Quarq crankset. I believe its the same as SRAM Force. No problems, no creaking, shifts just like the Integra crankset it replaced. Probably has around 2000 miles on it now.

1Sigma

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #589 on: September 16, 2021, 07:20:38 PM »
Hey guys, first post. Looking for a size recommendation with this frame before I order. I am 5'8" on a 54 Cannondale Supersix Evo right now, with 100mm stem, 0 offset seatpost.
VBR-168 has a 4mm longer reach, but effective top tube is 4mm shorter. Good there.  However VBR-168 has that 20mm offset seatpost, so that will throw things off. Contemplating ordering a 52, but not sure how the much lower stack height on the 52 will come into play.  Appreciate the advice!

Geo Comparison:
https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/cannondale-supersix-evo-2013-54,velobuild-vb-r-168-2021-54,velobuild-vb-r-168-2021-52/

Bikeinsights is another good site to compare geometry.   It allows you to better visualize the differences
https://bikeinsights.com/compare?geometries=5f3acb315c0c5a001736c275,604d98c2d7c8240017c37234,

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jokage

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #590 on: September 16, 2021, 09:01:34 PM »
However VBR-168 has that 20mm offset seatpost, so that will throw things off.

Isn't the seatpost of supersix also offset?

stmbike

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #591 on: September 17, 2021, 03:18:21 AM »
Hey guys, first post. Looking for a size recommendation with this frame before I order. I am 5'8" on a 54 Cannondale Supersix Evo right now, with 100mm stem, 0 offset seatpost.
VBR-168 has a 4mm longer reach, but effective top tube is 4mm shorter. Good there.  However VBR-168 has that 20mm offset seatpost, so that will throw things off. Contemplating ordering a 52, but not sure how the much lower stack height on the 52 will come into play.  Appreciate the advice!

Geo Comparison:
https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/cannondale-supersix-evo-2013-54,velobuild-vb-r-168-2021-54,velobuild-vb-r-168-2021-52/
In my opinion, your size is 54

stmbike

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #592 on: September 17, 2021, 03:21:06 AM »

my Velobuild with SRAM etape



looks nice! and very good weight!! is a 56cm or 58cm frame?

stmbike

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #593 on: September 17, 2021, 03:39:10 AM »
At the end, I ordered vb-r-168 58cm white pearl, with handlebar and separated stem (110/440)
Chris told me that weight is 120g stem and 240g handlebar. And the stem is 6 degree. Will see how works.
He told me is going to be ok for send next wednesday... fingers crossed :)

1Sigma

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #594 on: September 17, 2021, 08:49:15 AM »
Are you all using integrated handlebar of velobuild?
I ordered without handlebar because I prefer to use stem+handlebar… I’m 85kg and I think is a more rigid option.
My idea is use or FSA SMR stem with ACR system or Deda Superbox stem.

https://www.bike24.es/i/mb/b3/58/d2/fsa-smr-stem-6-degrees-932944.jpg
https://hollandbikeshop.com/img/prod/deda-superbox-potencia-a-head-1-1-8-o31-7mm-90mm-alu-negro-8052783488041-11-l.jpg

I am also 85kg.  Using the HB010 handlebars in 420/110.
FWIW, I have not had any real flexing, and find the bars stiff enough for my riding style. 
It is worth noting though that:
1) On the hood or drops, most of my weight is still on the saddle and not shifted to the bars resulting in lower load on the bars
2) I do not yank and push on the bars when I get out of the saddle to sprint
3) That being said, my sprints are weak and are typically under 1000W






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1Sigma

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #595 on: September 17, 2021, 08:53:09 AM »
that's perfect



my Velobuild with SRAM etape



I am trying not to be a weight weenie, but the urge is just so strong. 
Did you do anything special to keep the weight down?  (e.g cut the seat post, replace stock hardware, etc.)
And that is the weight with pedals and cages?

I am working on reducing the weight of my bike by an extra 10kg (the engine is too heavy...)
 
Great build BTW
« Last Edit: September 17, 2021, 08:59:16 AM by 1Sigma »
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renrew

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #596 on: September 17, 2021, 02:16:13 PM »
Actually nothing special. The SRAM RED etape is expensive and light

FRAME 56

« Last Edit: September 17, 2021, 02:18:09 PM by renrew »

1Sigma

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #597 on: September 17, 2021, 09:46:19 PM »
Actually nothing special. The SRAM RED etape is expensive and light

FRAME 56



Thanks for sharing!

I see where the deltas are. Indeed the SRAM Red is light, but your 56 frame also came in 150g lighter than my 56 (paint?)
Also your wheels look like they are about 100g lighter
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renrew

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #598 on: September 18, 2021, 02:25:49 AM »
my wheels are 50 mm with DT SWISS 180, Sapim XRAY and inner width 22 with 1473 g that is very well bought at Ligthcarbon
« Last Edit: September 18, 2021, 02:27:54 AM by renrew »

simonk

Re: Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame
« Reply #599 on: September 19, 2021, 12:09:46 PM »
I’ve received my frame and started the build. However, I’m having a lot of trouble with the internal routing. My specific question is whether I have to get the shifter cable housing inside the frame or not?