Velobuild VB-R-168 Frame

[Unsworn5836]

Mine are also rubbing, even with bike ahead biturbo.
Got the same on specialized venge before.

[hazzer19]

Hello everyone, I finished my VB-R-168 a few days ago. I've been testing it and I have a little problem with the disc brakes, which are Force AXS. When pedaling standing up and tilting the bicycle, the pads rub slightly. I would like to know if they have happened to them.
I have also changed the derailleur hanger and put this one on it:  https://es.aliexpress.com/item/1005001741343749.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.order_list_main.35.7768194dtsW8Rn&gatewayAdapt=glo2esp.

Clean build! what made you go with this RD hanger instead of the stock one?

[xoloroco]

Nice bike,  no ffedback on the rubbing disc, but can suggest to make sure the spokes are tight to the correct tension. some wheel flex is expected when you sprint, but should not be too much to cause rubbing. 
By the way, can you share the specs on your wheels? they look grand!

Thank you so much.
The wheels are from a company called Carbonal. They have many mounting options and they roll very well, they are good wheels.
Specs are 45mm depth, 18mm internal width, DT240 hubs and Sapim CX-Ray spokes. The rims are tubeless, have no spoke holes, MoMag mount

[xoloroco]

Clean build! what made you go with this RD hanger instead of the stock one?

Hello,
On pages 100-102 of this forum they discuss the problems they have had with the small screw it has. It's always good to have a spare.

[Madcrazy10]

Hey curious what sizes people went with for this frame.  I'm 5'8" (172.7cm) and trying to pick between a 52-S or a 54-M.  Currently I ride a Canyon Endurace in small but those Canyon sizes are odd & don't really equate to other brands.  Any thoughts?

[OlieSimpson]

If it's any help I'm 5'7" (170cm) and ride a 52 with 400x90 one piece bars and 170mm cranks. Never had an issue with the fit of the bike and have always found it comfortable, with the longest ride I done being around 135km.

I've never had a bike fit so got no idea if what I ride is the most optimal position but it does feel okay.

Hope this helps,

Olie

[raisinberry777]

Hey curious what sizes people went with for this frame.  I'm 5'8" (172.7cm) and trying to pick between a 52-S or a 54-M.  Currently I ride a Canyon Endurace in small but those Canyon sizes are odd & don't really equate to other brands.  Any thoughts?

You're pretty much on the cusp, depending on your other measurements. If you like a really low position, consider a small and getting a slightly longer stem, otherwise you could probably go for a medium. Given that you currently ride a a Canyon Endurace, I suspect you'd prefer the higher position of the medium VBR-168 (which is still 24mm lower than the Canyon you currently ride).

A small Canyon Endurace is basically an M in everything else - the M for the VBR-168 is the equivalent size. Here's a useful comparison of a small Canyon Endurace, a small Canyon Ultimate (i.e. similar style allrounder) and the Specialized Tarmac (same as VBR-168):

https://geometrygeeks.bike/compare/canyon-ultimate-cfr-2023-s,specialized-tarmac-disc-2020-54,canyon-endurace-7-2022-s/

[Zoc]

i would go with small,
the vbr ist long in my oppinion and the seatpost with the offset makes it even longer

[Unsworn5836]

Well... after some days on the 168 I was at a bike fitting.
And guess what, my seatpost/seattube also is out of spec and as soon as tightened it points to the right (standing behind the saddle).
As I did not have an aluminum can available I took some stronger plastic (SD card packaging) in there, 2 to be exact. That should equals almost 0,3 mm.
Lessons learned for me: no more aero posts from velobuild  

[Zoc]

very nice site to compare bike geometry
velobuild 168 already entered

https://bike-stats.de/geometrie_vergleich

[TCal]

Greetings VBR-168 community,

today my question to you folks is about the routing of the front derailleur cable. Having successfuly threaded the four cables of my fully mechanical setup through the integrated cockpit i proceeded to route the cables through the frame (i started the other way around, frame first then handlebar... well that didn't work!). I have now routed all four cables to their locations, RD is in place, RB is in place, FB is in place. When it comes to the FD I have routed the outter cable bellow the bottom bracket shell (Token Ninja Thread together), as others here have done, so that it can make the bend upwards towards exiting the frame. As the cable outer makes its way to the metal exit grommet provided I found that the way the piece was manufactured makes it impossible for the end of the cable outer to sit within it. Dont ask for a pic because is nearly impossible to see the area in question without an endoscope.

I ended up modifying the piece with a dremmel by opening the aperture of the grommet piece facing the inside of the frame so that the end of the outer cable has a better chance at sitting with in it.  Still not perfect fit. However, the cable inner does slides on through the grommet as intended.

I get to my question, How critical for shfting performance on the FD is it to have full contact on the cable outer into the grommet from inside the frame? In other setups that use just the inner cable, or in  external cable routing setups (without the outter cable) the cable is doing all the tension work. Seems to me that under this scenario the cable outer is not carrying much load, if any, and what is more important is to have proper tension on the inner cable. Does that make sense? Some pics for reference are below

[joegal]

Due to a coincidence in the 268 thread, I did some digging and found out that the 168 was probably originally made for S1Neo and was usedw for their 599D 2021-2022 Version. However, they use a new mold now for thee 599D.

But I found some old (japanese, i guess) youtube videos and a sale listing as evidence. ;-)

https://www.troc-velo.com/fr-fr/annonce/velo-de-route-s1neo-599d-3612063

https://youtu.be/VIRWE0uy4bA?si=hRsKO85p8jHbFcUk

[TCal]

@olliesimpson

Tell me again about filling the FD cable stop.  I am encountering the same issue, I filled it a bit but it is still not a perfect fit alignment to push the cable stop back into the frame.

[OlieSimpson]

@TCal

I've just sent you a PM on my instal method

For the filing, you need to file the inside of the cable stop where the outer enters the stop, I needed to 'open' the hole up on the cable stop so the angle to cable entered wasn't so tight.

[TCal]

@TCal

I've just sent you a PM on my instal method

For the filing, you need to file the inside of the cable stop where the outer enters the stop, I needed to 'open' the hole up on the cable stop so the angle to cable entered wasn't so tight.

Got it. And got your PM. Thanks again for your help.  Seems I am on the right path.