Speeder SC-R48

[StiffWeenies]

I am intrigued by Speeder's new SC-R49D aero frame. The design looks similar to a Winspace T1500 but with more reach. I'm always on the quest for more reach and shorter stack.

https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R49D-_p399.html

Size 500 (M): Reach 397 Stack 544
Size 540 (L):  Reach 407 Stack 564

Winspace T1500
Size L:           Reach 393 Stack 547
VeloBuild 168
Size 56 (L):    Reach 398 Stack 556
Dengfu R12
Size 54:         Reach 393 Stack 546

Looks like the last gen Pardus Spark EVO might be right up your alley then. It's probably the most aggressive frame on the market if not comfortably top 3.

last gen Pardus Spark EVO, Rim or Disc
Size M: Reach 390, Stack 522
Size L: Reach 400, Stack 538

compared to the new gen Pardus Spark EVO, Disc only
Size M: Reach 383, Stack 527
Size L: Reach 387, Stack 540

pair the old frame with the conventional stem headset cap from the Spark Sport and you have yourself the most aggressive setup possible

[RDY]

Looks like the last gen Pardus Spark EVO might be right up your alley then. It's probably the most aggressive frame on the market if not comfortably top 3.

last gen Pardus Spark EVO, Rim or Disc
Size M: Reach 390, Stack 522
Size L: Reach 400, Stack 538

compared to the new gen Pardus Spark EVO, Disc only
Size M: Reach 383, Stack 527
Size L: Reach 387, Stack 540

pair the old frame with the conventional stem headset cap from the Spark Sport and you have yourself the most aggressive setup possible

Have you got a geo chart for the new Spark EVO?  I haven't been able to find one.

Edit: Just saw you posted a link in the other thread.

[Rone69]

I found another frame that sems to be very close (or the same) to the Speedr SC-R48 (or Winspace SLC 2.0) it is the Parapera Atmos
https://www.eddywouldattack.net/home/parapera-gravel-bikes/atmos/


some reviews
https://granfondo-cycling.com/parapera-atmos-masterpiece-2022-review/
https://granfondo-cycling.com/parapera-atmos-2021-review/
https://www.radsport-rennrad.de/test-technik/parapera-atmos-disc-masterpiece-test/https://www-radsport--rennrad-de.translate.goog/test-teile/traumraeder-2022-test/?_x_tr_sl=de&_x_tr_tl=it&_x_tr_hl=it&_x_tr_pto=op
https://www.radsport-rennrad.de/test-technik/parapera-atmos-disc-test/
https://www.roadbike.de/rennrad/test-parapera-atmos/#
https://granfondo-cycling.com/parapera-anemos-gravel-bike-review/

[patliean1]

Can anyone confirm whether or not Winspace is simply using Speeder frames (T1500 and SLC2), but with their own paint, branding, and QC?

Or is the actual carbon layup and molding process different from Speeder to Winspace?

[svanimpe]

Some of the images on the Speeder website are actually Winspace bikes with the logos (poorly) photoshopped out, so I can we can safely say that they are the manufacturer?

[Irideslowly]

Why wouldn't the manufacturer have pictures of their own bikes?

[s3si1u]

Why wouldn't the manufacturer have pictures of their own bikes?

Possibly because they never expected a group of cheap bike nerds to convene online for the sole purpose of figuring out who the OEM of a specific frame is 

[3GGG]

https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R52D-_p412.html

This looks interesting!

[BalticSea]

https://www.speedercycling.com/Carbon-Road-Disc-Frameset-SC-R52D-_p412.html

This looks interesting!

Yeah, it piqued my interest too. I wonder if they copied a geometry of certain frame?

[martocom]

The product page for the SC-R52D includes a real photography now.
Seems to be a small size. Headtube doesn't look too good in my opinion.

[Rone69]

maybe this is the SLC 3.0
https://www.adrisport-bik

[martocom]

maybe this is the SLC 3.0
https://www.adrisport-bik

That Link isn't working

[ancientone]

Google is your friend.

https://www.adrisport-bike.com/

[StiffWeenies]

I found this Danish brand rebranding the T1500 and SLC 2.0

Pronghorn Road Aero and Road SL

[Rone69]

I have come to the conclusion that there are 2 possibilities: 
the first one, Winspace and Speeder are the same factory, the second, Speeder is the supplier of Winspace, in both cases the direct sales by Speeder are helpful to sell the frame that don't have passed the QC required by the main customers.