Anyone riding the M-092?

[stout_to_carbon]

http://www.velobuildmall.com/vb-m-092-29er-carbon-fiber-mountain-bike-mtb-frame/

I have been reading about this frame on the web.  I like the 71 degree HT, and the other geometry measurements with the 18" frame.  Comes with optional BB30, so in theory I can run a Beer components EBB.

Has anyone else built up this frame?  I'd love to hear about real riding experiences, characteristics and durability with this frame?

I intend to run it rigid, with all likelihood the 29er carbon fork by Velobuild.

[Carbon_Dude]

Their product description/specs do not fully match up to the drop down menu selections.  I'd just find something similar from Iplay or one of the other better known Chiner vendors (Chendors .

[carbonazza]

The rear dropouts looks from an older age.
Thru axle are more rigid and easy to use.

But if you really like that frame more than the classical 057 and 256 most of us have here.
May be ask if they have 142x12 compatible dropouts, available for that frame.

[stout_to_carbon]

Thanks for the responses.

I've been looking carefully as the charted geometry matches my SE  Stout closely.  Specifically the wheelbase and heat tube angle.  I have no reason to think the IP-057 wouldn't work other than geo.  Perhaps I'm grossly over thinking the geo, but I love my Stout, and just want it, but lighter.  If someone said this M-092 was really nice, based on experience, I'd consider it.

Perhaps this company isn't reliable?  Is there any feedback on Velobuild?

I have questioned the seller about that weird frame sizing vs geo chart mismatch.  And I do see what you are saying about the dropouts.  But, until you said that, I don't think I would have ever based a decision on the dropouts, other than my hub is 135mm with XT QR Stans 3.30 - but feel free to teach me something new, if I'm still anchored in the old school.

[Carbon_Dude]

If you already have an existing wheelset and are happy with the old QR system then there is nothing wrong with sticking with what you know.  For me, once I went thru axle, I would not go back to the old QR system.  It's just what I prefer now.

[Oolak]

unless you plan on/ want to upgrade wheels then don't worry about the rear axle, stick with what you know.

As for velobuild, a lot of guys on roadbikeforum use them and they are reputable. as for their communication, or website accuracy, i'm not so certain about that.. I just know they will send you the product you order. That said, if you can;t get accurate sizing/geo info on the frame you're interested in then that'd be a pretty big turn-off for me, personally.

[carbonazza]

I didn't consider you may have an existing 135mm hub/wheel to match. Sorry.

142x12 is just an improvement in rigidity.
And make it easier/faster to align the wheel and brake disc.

[stout_to_carbon]

No worries mate. 

easier/faster to align the wheel and brake disc

I currently have track mounts.  Looking forward for drop outs (any kind) and an EBB.  If I was wanting to ditch my wheels, I'd look into thru axle, for sure.  For now, I like my ZTR Stans tubeless 29's.  Not like, love them!

Curious though, is the IP-057, IP-256, and stuff from http://www.xmiplay.com/ the best way to go, or just what people on this forum have done, or both?  I'm feeling, perhaps wrongly, a bias to that line of chiners.

That M-092 seems to have great potential and geo.  So, now it's between the IP-057 with Bert, or the M-092 with Chris, or ??

I noticed both frames have a stated 2 year warranty.   Do ya think that means they are likely to fall apart in that amount of time?  I have been a steel is real rider for a long time, but this lure of carbon is strong.  I'm just wrestling with perception and reality.  I don't want to ride ride ride and worry at all that a rock kicked up is going to wreck my ride!

What I aim to do is have a carbon rigid setup, with BB30, Beer components EBB, and swap most of my components over.  I'm concerned the EBB may damaged some carbon frames.  Don't know that if that actually applies to either of these frames, or neither.

I think I might need to just shell out some cash, and learn it myself.   Just feel compelled to minimize the risk. 

[brmeyer135]

The 57 and 256 are both popular as they came out and iPlay seemed to be the main vendor for them as they were released.  Plus, Peter has been active on this and other sites(good marketing/promotion works) 
As to the frames, not many, if any, stories of broken frames related to the 57 or 256(some other frame yes).

[Carbon_Dude]

The only report of a broken IP-057 I have read on MTBR was a guy that ran into a tree which I would think is not covered under warranty.

[stout_to_carbon]

Run into a tree?  If rooted in the ground and think, then ok.  But, if a sapling, or just laying across a trail, then I'm concerned.   

I don't know why I don't pull the trigger on the 057.  Nothing but good words here.  Perhaps I will.  But, that M92, it keeps calling.

[Carbon_Dude]

Run into a tree?  If rooted in the ground and think, then ok.  But, if a sapling, or just laying across a trail, then I'm concerned.   

I don't know why I don't pull the trigger on the 057.  Nothing but good words here.  Perhaps I will.  But, that M92, it keeps calling.

Not a sapling, hit at speed,  the owner said any CF bike would have been damaged which also means any AL or steel frame would have been bent.  Ti may have survived but it's debatable.  Either way, no reports of IP-057 frames breaking from normal abuse.