Elves Falath EVO 2023

[diP]

First informations about the 2023 Falath "Evo" are showing up.

"Current price unknown ... are expected in February.
The first batch will be in April."

Couldn't find any informations about geometry.
Was looking for a new Aero Roadbike and had this one on my watchlist, but not so sure about its looks...

[ExclusiviteChinoise]

Looks pretty good imo but prb heavy af

[elmtree]

I like the look. One thing I'm always worried about with the flush stem/top tube is that the bike only looks okay in the most aggressive fit

[svanimpe]

One thing I'm always worried about with the flush stem/top tube is that the bike only looks okay in the most aggressive fit

Yeah, at least Cervelo compensates this with a positive stem angle, but that's not the case here. Unless you're a gymnast, you probably can't ride this frame.

[patliean1]

https://www.carousell.com.hk/p/2023-elves-falath-evo-%E7%B2%BE%E9%9D%88%E6%B3%95%E6%8B%89%E6%96%AFevo-%E5%85%A8%E5%85%A7%E8%B5%B0%E7%A2%9F%E5%89%8E%E5%85%AC%E8%B7%AF%E8%BB%8A-%E9%9D%9Elook-cervelo%E8%A8%AD%E8%A8%88-disc-roadbike-1209408332/

While the overall reach is still probably too short (typical Elves), surprisingly this frame would actually fit me quite well. The non-aggressive stack measurement compensates for the slammed handlebar decision. Just strange how I need a 3XL in Elves when I usually ride a M/L/56 in everything else.

[RDY]

There's supposed to be a 61 this time.

[keno190]

I'm actually pretty excited for this frame. I want this with the potential ltwoo electronic hydro set with a set of elite wheels to pair with my legit SW SL7 as a super beater. haha

[Sebastian]

Wow! The top tube length on these is ridiculously short. The 3XL has a 59 seat tube and not even a 56 top tube? That's crazy short.
Does Elves allow customers to choose any cockpit size with their frame?

[s3si1u]

I like this geo. The 52 would probably fit me pretty nicely, and is definitely slammable. Too bad I don't like the frame design 

[ExclusiviteChinoise]

Looks quite like the Simplon Pride https://www.simplon.com/de/Bikes/Roadbikes/Pride-II_b_292366 but with skinnier fork

[Takiyaki]

Def need positive stem options.... would look better and be more comfortable

[patliean1]

Cam Nicholls' first look on the new Falath EVO. The updated price is gonna sting for a lot of folks...

[Velovelo]

Nice frame, looks fast!
For the size 59 I'll still need about 20mm of spacers measuring from above the top tube. Looks like it's going to be proprietary spacers.
The offset seat post works here with the shorter reach.

[patliean1]

I'm really intrigued. The assumption with the UCI approval besides safety and testing, is that Elves really wants to make this their flagship frameset to compete with the likes of Winspace and Yoeleo. I'm hesitant to also mention SEKA because this new Elves Falath weighs about 400g heavier. Not a deal breaker for me since overall system weight is drastically more important. And it is an aero frame.

Still scratching my head though over the geometry (3XL), particularly the reach since it's a racing frame. My 2022 Allez Sprint (size 56) has a reach of 398mm and I'm running a 130mm stem. This setup is practically identical to my Winspace 1500 (size L) with 125mm (effectively 140mm) integrated bars.

Hoping Elves offers an integrated bar with a 130mm stem.

[dsveddy]

After watching the Cam Nicholls video, am I the only one who doesn't think this bike looks fast? It looks like it was designed to have the appearance of being aero from the side profile, but clearly fails in several areas. The frontal profile on the head tube and fork is super chunky compared to the Falath Pro. Everyone knows frontal area=drag. There's also a lot of weird tube profiles, the seat tube and gusset have a really square frontal profile, and the top-down cross-section of the head-tube right behind the steerer doesn't really taper, instead terminating in a chunky square flat back like on a Trek Madone. This area of the head-tube is probably the most important part to make as narrow as possible since it gets the cleanest air. But then the downtube narrows and never widens again to shield the water bottle. It's backwards of what you want, which is narrow up top and a wider, flatter back down low to shield the bottle. I just don't get it. I'm not an aerodynamics expert but this bike seems to just violate a bunch of aero principles I know of. I wouldn't be surprised if the outgoing model is faster with bottles on.

That and it's heavy. I initially saw online rumors that the frame would be ~900gr. Now 400 grams over that? Even heavier than the outgoing model? I can't see this being popular.