[Q]Comfortable Long ride Gravel Frame.

[d3xophen]

I am looking for a gravel frame which is comfortable for long ride.
I don't know about geometry.
Can someone advice me which Chinese frames is good?

[Irideslowly]

The best gravel frame seems to be the carbonda cfr696.

Comfort is subjective.

[carbonazza]

The comfort will come a lot from the tire volume and the pressure you will inflate them.
The 696 and 707 frames from Carbonda are great frames.

[d3xophen]

I planned to build for riding more than 100km (70-80% pave road)
What I mean is for relaxed bike, not sporty bike.
with 700 with light tyre and wheels.
Now I am looking for tantan GR044
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004310989115.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.72.179431ffyVym4Z&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21US%20%24569.00%21US%20%24426.75%21%21%21%21%21%400b0a050b16540920677201880e8436%2112000028709493658%21sh

that frame can ship to my country.
But I don't know about geometry.

[carbonazza]

I planned to build for riding more than 100km (70-80% pave road)
What I mean is for relaxed bike, not sporty bike.
with 700 with light tyre and wheels.
Now I am looking for tantan GR044
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004310989115.html?spm=a2g0o.store_pc_groupList.8148356.72.179431ffyVym4Z&pdp_npi=2%40dis%21USD%21US%20%24569.00%21US%20%24426.75%21%21%21%21%21%400b0a050b16540920677201880e8436%2112000028709493658%21sh

that frame can ship to my country.
But I don't know about geometry.

Look at how the stack/reach from the aliexpress geometry picture compares to your current bike(s).
You can check with https://geometrygeeks.bike/ too.
Usually gravel frames are more relaxed, but not always.

From memory, Tantan doesn't have a really good after sales service in case something happen.

[d3xophen]

Look at how the stack/reach from the aliexpress geometry picture compares to your current bike(s).
You can check with https://geometrygeeks.bike/ too.
Usually gravel frames are more relaxed, but not always.

From memory, Tantan doesn't have a really good after sales service in case something happen.

May I know which one is more relaxed in between carbonda 696 and 707?

[jannmayer]

May I know which one is more relaxed in between carbonda 696 and 707?

If you just look at the frame measurement, the 696 is more upright than the 707. However, you can fit a shorter stem on the 707 and get a similar fit. My XL 707 with an 80 mm stem has about the same fit as a size 58 696 with a 100 mm stem an 5 mm more spacers.


I went with a longer frame, shorter stem, and wider bars to push the front wheel farther forwards and improve stability on rough terrain. If you are mostly interested in roads and smoother gravel surfaces, the 696 with a more conventional stem length might be the better choice.

[Tijoe]

Depending on what terrain you will ride your gravel bike on you might consider purchasing a gravel frame that will fit larger than 38mm tires.   Many new gravel bike frames fit 42 mm or even 44 mm tires in back.   I wish by Seraph Gravel frame I purchased 3 years ago fit wider tires.  I find that the 38s are limiting on rough descents, and have since migrated to using my 29er hardtail with dropper bars for more and more of my longer gravel road rides

[jannmayer]

Depending on what terrain you will ride your gravel bike on you might consider purchasing a gravel frame that will fit larger than 38mm tires.   Many new gravel bike frames fit 42 mm or even 44 mm tires in back.   I wish by Seraph Gravel frame I purchased 3 years ago fit wider tires.  I find that the 38s are limiting on rough descents, and have since migrated to using my 29er hardtail with dropper bars for more and more of my longer gravel road rides

I totally agree with this! I like my 700x50 mm tires way more than I thought I would, and they aren't horrible on pavement. Big tires really open up a lot of ride options where I am.


Both the Carbonda 696 and 707 have really impressive clearance. I think the 696 has a hair more - I've heard of people putting 29x2.1" tires while my 707 is maxed out at 2".

[mirphak]

I am happy with my Flyxii02 (flybike 616). Even more relaxed than the carbonda 696 (flybike 696) with slighly shorter reach.

[jonathanf2]

Have you considered a steel frameset? If comfort is your priority, steel is real!

https://www.aliexpress.us/item/2255800851721023.html

[eeney]

I wanted a gravel/touring frame.  Spent a bit more money and got a Titanium frame from Waltly.  I love it, running 650b x 47 & 50mm tyres.  Suitable for medium speed roadie group rides and gravel/fire trail riding. Will be a super touring bike when I get some 700 wheels (on order from Speeder Cycling)  Again, cost more than a Chinese carbon frame, but should last a long time, and still much less expensive than from a local Titanium bike brand