Author Topic: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?  (Read 135277 times)

abdbeg

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #45 on: June 16, 2023, 04:52:27 AM »
I also ordered from AliExpress seller (SEQUEL) because it's cheaper and they sell different type of handlebar (which is the same as The One handlebar), it looks nicer in my opinion, also they included for 10$ ceramic BB.
« Last Edit: June 16, 2023, 06:19:07 AM by abdbeg »

patliean1

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #46 on: June 16, 2023, 08:38:58 AM »
Heads up: This frame uses the same front derailleur design as both VeloBuild and Rinasclta/Air Wolfe.

Which is precisely why I chose eTap for my VeloBuild CX-002 build. Having used that FD design with mechanical shifting on 3 previous Chinese bikes, I refuse to ever go back. Like ever ever ever.

abdbeg

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2023, 12:51:57 AM »
Heads up: This frame uses the same front derailleur design as both VeloBuild and Rinasclta/Air Wolfe.

Which is precisely why I chose eTap for my VeloBuild CX-002 build. Having used that FD design with mechanical shifting on 3 previous Chinese bikes, I refuse to ever go back. Like ever ever ever.

What is the problem with them? I want to use 105 11 speed with this frame

Velovelo

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2023, 04:08:42 AM »
Heads up: This frame uses the same front derailleur design as both VeloBuild and Rinasclta/Air Wolfe.

Which is precisely why I chose eTap for my VeloBuild CX-002 build. Having used that FD design with mechanical shifting on 3 previous Chinese bikes, I refuse to ever go back. Like ever ever ever.


For the 105 R7000 mechanical front derailleur, what works for me with these frames is running the cable housing all the way to the FD's cable stopper (see attached image for reference). Then I use any of these clips from Amazon or AliExpress for the cable housing/frame body interface.
I use the 105 R7000 FD for all my mechanical build no matter the RD or crankset. Cheap and very easy for me to work with.
 



abdbeg

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2023, 03:46:13 AM »
So, seller sent some photos before shipping, looks really good.

https://imgur.com/a/EGcHT7P

Velovelo

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2023, 06:03:20 AM »
I thought the housing had to push against the frame, then comes the cable.
But it sounds you're running the housing all the way to the FD.

Yes, I am running the housing all the way to the R7000 FD. The cable housing is pushing against the FD stopper (as illustrated in the image documentation in my above post and my attached image here).
This is exactly the same principle as the Rear Derailleur, but the Rear Derailleur has a tension adjuster but works with similar principle; the housing is pushed against the RD cable housing stopper.

You just need to make sure to remove all the slack from the Front Derailleur cable before you tight it down.
Don't think too much about it. Just try it. It works guys!

This only works with Front Derailleur with a built in cable stopper like the Shimano 105 R7000 front derailleur.

Excuse my dirty bike in the images.


« Last Edit: June 19, 2023, 06:14:42 AM by Velovelo »

coffeebreak

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2023, 10:06:17 AM »
Yes, I am running the housing all the way to the R7000 FD. The cable housing is pushing against the FD stopper (as illustrated in the image documentation in my above post and my attached image here).

Well done, this is the way.

patliean1

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2023, 11:02:53 AM »
Then I use any of these clips from Amazon or AliExpress for the cable housing/frame body interface.
I use the 105 R7000 FD for all my mechanical build no matter the RD or crankset. Cheap and very easy for me to work with.

Where on Amazon can I find those housing clips?

I have a bunch of Ultegra hydro-mechanical groupsets/parts lying around. Would be cool if I could reuse them instead of buying a new SRAM etap groupo for this build.

Sidenote: The Ultegra R8000 FD also has that same FD stopper

Velovelo

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2023, 01:05:32 PM »
Where on Amazon can I find those housing clips?
Sidenote: The Ultegra R8000 FD also has that same FD stopper

When I was looking for the image of the clip to share here I saw them on Amazon stores (not sure which country) and AliExpress. I got mine on AliExpress.
You can right click on the clip image on my previous post and select "search image with Google" (...on google chrome browser). This should show you links to where to get them.

Ya, as far as the FD has a stopper it'll work.



elmtree

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #54 on: June 22, 2023, 08:25:14 AM »
It looks like tantan is listing the weight as ~1100g while seraph is listing it as 1300g. Could one of you weigh it when you get it? This is definitely the top of my list right now.

patliean1

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #55 on: June 22, 2023, 09:24:58 AM »
It looks like tantan is listing the weight as ~1100g while seraph is listing it as 1300g. Could one of you weigh it when you get it? This is definitely the top of my list right now.

Here are some of the frames I've weighed and tested size 56. Figure add to 200g for paint.

VeloBuild 166 (Unpainted) - 1005g
Rinasclta Granite (Unpainted) - 1042g
Dengfu R12 (Unpainted) - 1112g
Winspace T1500 - 1218g
VeloBuild CX-002 (Matte Black) - 1261g
Yoeleo R12 - 1305g
2020 Allez Sprint (Rim Brake) - 1459g
2022 Allez Sprint Disc - 1521g

My unpainted x38 frame should arrive on Monday or Tuesday. It's a pure aero frame resembling a TT bike with a beefy bottom bracket area. My guess is around 1150g before paint, but weight really should not be priority.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2023, 09:32:03 AM by patliean1 »

WhityWhite

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #56 on: June 22, 2023, 10:18:49 AM »
Here are some of the frames I've weighed and tested size 56. Figure add to 200g for paint.

VeloBuild 166 (Unpainted) - 1005g
Rinasclta Granite (Unpainted) - 1042g
Dengfu R12 (Unpainted) - 1112g
Winspace T1500 - 1218g
VeloBuild CX-002 (Matte Black) - 1261g
Yoeleo R12 - 1305g
2020 Allez Sprint (Rim Brake) - 1459g
2022 Allez Sprint Disc - 1521g

My unpainted x38 frame should arrive on Monday or Tuesday. It's a pure aero frame resembling a TT bike with a beefy bottom bracket area. My guess is around 1150g before paint, but weight really should not be priority.

I've read somewhere or seen that you paint the bikes yourself with spray cans.
How many do you use there per wheel and does it look reasonably clean?
How does that behave with the extra weight after a paint job?

patliean1

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2023, 07:29:10 PM »
My frameset has arrived. Unpainted, Size 56 w/ 400x120 integrated bars. The 120mm stem is effectively more like 130-135mm because the stem is measured to the center point of the top bars, rather than to the imaginary intersection of where the metal faceplate on a separate stem would meet. This has been the case with every integrated bar I've used. My 125mm Winspace integrated bars measure more like 145mm stem.

Frame (both hangers installed): 1148g
Uncut Fork: 383g
Seatpost: 209g
Handlebars: 395g

First impressions are it looks and feels like every other unpainted frame I've tested in this price point ($500-$900). There has been some attempt to face the caliper mounts, and the T47 threaded bottom bracket looks okay upon first inspection. I have a DUB T47 BB arriving later this week to confirm no issues.

Will get it painted soon, and best believe I will be slamming the heck out of that integrated handlebar.

abdbeg

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #58 on: June 27, 2023, 05:43:00 AM »
Looks good patliean1, could you please also check if it fits 32c tyre?

patliean1

Re: dcrf26 frame - Scott Foil?
« Reply #59 on: June 27, 2023, 08:07:28 AM »
Looks good patliean1, could you please also check if it fits 32c tyre?

Website claims 32c tire clearance. I was only able to fit a 32 in the front, but not the rear. Not even close.

Chinese brands are already notorious for overstating tire clearance. I don't understand why TanTan would claim 32c for such an aggressive aero frame in the first place...