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Ideal way to replace cables/hoses on full ICR frame?
kbernstein:
--- Quote from: coffeebreak on April 12, 2023, 10:52:43 PM ---Guys, silly question probably but what do you do with these cable sleeves/guides for internal routing? I got pretty long sleeves. Cut them? Remove them entirely or what? The cable port under BB shell has a removable cover so the cables are well protected anyway from any dirt getting kicked up from the road. What other purpose these sleeves serve?
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Looks like a 696 (painted the same as mine?) so you have the option of either running full outer housing from shifter to mech, and in this case you can just remove these entirely (you can use the liners to help guide the housing as you remove it). Or you can run segmented and in this case you would keep those orange cable liners and run the cables through them, but even then on the 696 I think the trapdoor under the BB has too many kinks so I would cut them around that mark so you can have a "checkpoint" and feed it back at a better angle.
coffeebreak:
--- Quote from: kbernstein on April 13, 2023, 05:45:51 AM ---Looks like a 696 (painted the same as mine?) so you have the option of either running full outer housing from shifter to mech, and in this case you can just remove these entirely (you can use the liners to help guide the housing as you remove it). Or you can run segmented and in this case you would keep those orange cable liners and run the cables through them, but even then on the 696 I think the trapdoor under the BB has too many kinks so I would cut them around that mark so you can have a "checkpoint" and feed it back at a better angle.
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Its Basswood by the-house, so yes same Flybike 696 mold which they paint in metallic forest green. To run full outer from shifter to mech, I will have to remove the cable stopper because it is not designed to accept full outer and then it will be ugly plus impractical. Does your cable stop/guide allow passing cable outer? Since cable outer on mine cannot go in the frame I have to do segmented. One outer housing segment from shifter to frame and one more from rear triangle to derailleur.
On my Fuji, I have the same setup but the sleeve is only used under the BB area (say about 8-10 inches).. inside the trapdoor, otherwise the cable runs free without any sleeve in the frame
kbernstein:
--- Quote from: coffeebreak on April 13, 2023, 11:47:21 AM ---Its Basswood by the-house, so yes same Flybike 696 mold which they paint in metallic forest green. To run full outer from shifter to mech, I will have to remove the cable stopper because it is not designed to accept full outer and then it will be ugly plus impractical. Does your cable stop/guide allow passing cable outer? Since cable outer on mine cannot go in the frame I have to do segmented. One outer housing segment from shifter to frame and one more from rear triangle to derailleur.
On my Fuji, I have the same setup but the sleeve is only used under the BB area (say about 8-10 inches).. inside the trapdoor, otherwise the cable runs free without any sleeve in the frame
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Oh yes, that might be something that wasn't included in your frame. Buying direct from carbonda they give you a spare cable headport thingy that doesn't have the cable stops, they are all wide enough to accomodate full housing. I also removed the plastic piece under the BB for that. Since you can't, I really hope your cable liners aren't horribly kinked like mine were (I could not feed a cable through them at all) or you might have to get new liners or cut them into pieces at the kinks
Flying Trunk Monkey:
--- Quote from: coffeebreak on April 13, 2023, 11:47:21 AM ---Its Basswood by the-house, so yes same Flybike 696 mold which they paint in metallic forest green. To run full outer from shifter to mech, I will have to remove the cable stopper because it is not designed to accept full outer and then it will be ugly plus impractical. Does your cable stop/guide allow passing cable outer? Since cable outer on mine cannot go in the frame I have to do segmented. One outer housing segment from shifter to frame and one more from rear triangle to derailleur.
On my Fuji, I have the same setup but the sleeve is only used under the BB area (say about 8-10 inches).. inside the trapdoor, otherwise the cable runs free without any sleeve in the frame
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Hi, I was getting ready to post the same question for my Basswood. I'm glad I searched first.
If one wanted to run full length outer housing then I think there is enough material in the cable stop/guide to drill it out . The center hole for the brake cable/hose is obviously large enough to pass an outer housing through. Since I just learned that both are an option I haven't decided what I'd prefer.
My main concern was if segmented is an option. Segmented requires a straight shot (or a guide as in the case of the BB) and I couldn't quite tell the internal routing points allowed for that or not.
coffeebreak:
--- Quote from: Flying Trunk Monkey on May 15, 2023, 03:33:58 PM ---Hi, I was getting ready to post the same question for my Basswood. I'm glad I searched first.
If one wanted to run full length outer housing then I think there is enough material in the cable stop/guide to drill it out . The center hole for the brake cable/hose is obviously large enough to pass an outer housing through. Since I just learned that both are an option I haven't decided what I'd prefer.
My main concern was if segmented is an option. Segmented requires a straight shot (or a guide as in the case of the BB) and I couldn't quite tell the internal routing points allowed for that or not.
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I did the segmented cable - cable outer from shifters to cable port on the head tube. Used those RISK branded cable guides with nozzle there. Then cable inner all the way to bb area where I kept the yellow cable liner that came with the frame. Pushed it through plastic cable router all the way to exit port near RD. From exit port another little piece of cable outer.
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