Author Topic: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets  (Read 1449948 times)

Dmgreen13

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #165 on: September 29, 2023, 05:07:09 PM »
Received my er9 groupset in the mail today. After having built a bike with RX12, im particularly impressed with the finishing quality of the RD and FD. The surface finish is very nice. It seems a bit more polished than the RD and FD that come with the RX12 groupset.
The RD does have a serial number, so it seems it's one of the later units. Hopefully, it doesn't fail on me.
Still waiting on the frame that this is going on to. I'll post an update then.

Looking forward to your experience. I have mine on partially built frame so hoping to get it finished in the next week or so and to see how it performs. I did message LTwoo about warranty support after all the YouTube videos about it failing and had no reply whatsoever so that doesn't inspire much confidence.

Dark17

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #166 on: October 02, 2023, 10:02:29 AM »
ER9 came today. Checked each part and they seem really good. No batteries yet so they are yet to be tested and even I ordered No Box, all items are wrapped up pretty good and they put a lot of bubble plastic wrap. Can't wait for Chinese holiday to finish so I can finally resume ordering the final piece which is the wheelset.

Question for those who ordered No Box/No Battery specification, what batteries did you buy for the derailleur battery? Do I need to buy rechargeable batteries?
« Last Edit: October 02, 2023, 10:10:10 AM by Dark17 »

jcr

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #167 on: October 02, 2023, 10:38:29 AM »
ER9 came today. Checked each part and they seem really good. No batteries yet so they are yet to be tested and even I ordered No Box, all items are wrapped up pretty good and they put a lot of bubble plastic wrap. Can't wait for Chinese holiday to finish so I can finally resume ordering the final piece which is the wheelset.

Question for those who ordered No Box/No Battery specification, what batteries did you buy for the derailleur battery? Do I need to buy rechargeable batteries?

You will need to buy: 14500 battery capacity: 800mAh, 3.7V, 2.96Wh.

I think eBay has them cheap...but not sure if you can use a flat top with the step.


lantz

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #168 on: October 02, 2023, 10:45:46 AM »

BalticSea

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #169 on: October 02, 2023, 12:28:35 PM »
Speaking of batteries, how tall is the LTwoo battery housing? I believe Shimano one is 18cm, wondering if LTwoo is any shorter.

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #170 on: October 02, 2023, 07:38:58 PM »
You will need to buy: 14500 battery capacity: 800mAh, 3.7V, 2.96Wh.

I think eBay has them cheap...but not sure if you can use a flat top with the step.

Flattop does not work

I know because i ordered a flat top set of batteries :)
you'll probably need to drop a fat drop of solder on the top or get 14500 batteries with nipples.

lantz

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #171 on: October 05, 2023, 11:22:02 AM »
Just received my eRX.

Installing and getting everything set up, will report back.

So far, everything really feels quality!

For those that have received the set - I got the nobox/nobattery version - the directions all talk about setting up the brakes by adding the mineral oil and stuff - but seems like the lines are already filled?

What's the strategy to connecting them, already filled, to the brifters without making a god damned mess? lol.

Sakizashi

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #172 on: October 05, 2023, 11:35:49 AM »
Just received my eRX.

Installing and getting everything set up, will report back.

So far, everything really feels quality!

For those that have received the set - I got the nobox/nobattery version - the directions all talk about setting up the brakes by adding the mineral oil and stuff - but seems like the lines are already filled?

What's the strategy to connecting them, already filled, to the brifters without making a god damned mess? lol.

I havent built a set of ERX, but generally if you leave one end of hose connected either to the lever or caliper, very little fluid leaks out. Sort of like putting your thumb over the end of the straw. If you are using a routing kit, the tool should plug the line as well.

I prefer the Rockshox Reverb Stealth Barb Connector tool + cable liner to do the routing. If its a new frame with the liner installed or an old frame with existing hose, you just use the little tool to connect to the old line and pull the new line through. The tool is $2-$4 and well worth having around IMO.



lantz

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #173 on: October 05, 2023, 12:14:18 PM »
I havent built a set of ERX, but generally if you leave one end of hose connected either to the lever or caliper, very little fluid leaks out. Sort of like putting your thumb over the end of the straw. If you are using a routing kit, the tool should plug the line as well.

I prefer the Rockshox Reverb Stealth Barb Connector tool + cable liner to do the routing. If its a new frame with the liner installed or an old frame with existing hose, you just use the little tool to connect to the old line and pull the new line through. The tool is $2-$4 and well worth having around IMO.


That checks out - I've got a tool on the way, but it's from ali, so won't be here for a bit hehe - may have to just grab one from amazon in the meantime.

I assumed that would be the method, but I've only installed and bled hydraulics once, so didn't wanna miss anything super obvious.

Dmgreen13

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #174 on: October 05, 2023, 02:27:12 PM »
That checks out - I've got a tool on the way, but it's from ali, so won't be here for a bit hehe - may have to just grab one from amazon in the meantime.

I assumed that would be the method, but I've only installed and bled hydraulics once, so didn't wanna miss anything super obvious.

There are a few LTwoo YouTube videos on bleeding the brakes that show it well.

lantz

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #175 on: October 05, 2023, 06:15:01 PM »
There are a few LTwoo YouTube videos on bleeding the brakes that show it well.

Should have done the due diligence first - thanks for that!

lantz

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #176 on: October 05, 2023, 06:24:30 PM »
Oh man, watching that installation video is pretty good!

Weirdly, I didn't get a sleeve to help mount the battery in the seat tube. *shrug* guess I'll just wrap some electrical tape to get it to stick?

Dmgreen13

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #177 on: October 05, 2023, 06:26:11 PM »
Oh man, watching that installation video is pretty good!

Weirdly, I didn't get a sleeve to help mount the battery in the seat tube. *shrug* guess I'll just wrap some electrical tape to get it to stick?

No I just used some tape and packing foam my bike came in. Have done similar on other Shimano batteries in the past and it works fine.

lavistaa

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #178 on: October 05, 2023, 06:37:42 PM »
YOu can disconnect the brifters from the lines and no fluid will come out- just do it with the levers not installed on the bars so you can orient their position relative to the calipers and keep the connection pointed towards the ceiling as you disconnect. Removing the brake pads and putting in spacers is key as is not squeezing the lever when it's disconnected:)

Once the hose is cut and re-barbed (push the olive ALL the way to the end and ensure it stays there otherwise if messes up the caliper port), tighten back up (you need an 8 & a 10 at the same time) and give it a pump.

Leave this connnected, bring the caliper above the levers (or vice versa) and then unscrew the caliper bleed port and attach a syringe with 50mm or so of oil already in it.  Screw in finger tight. 

Now turn the fill port open, and put a cup there about 30% full of fluid.  Pump a few more times, now push in the syringe very slowly.  Knock on the caliper and brifter as well as the lines esp near the caliper and where there are turns with a rubber hammer or screwdriver handle.

Now comes the important part!  It's vacuum, not pressure which bleeds brakes.  The system is normally at STP so there's always air in the system.  Using a vacuum you can pull out much more air including that dissolved in the fluid (at STP) for a really great feel.  Pull very slowly and see the bubbles come out of suspension.  Let it rest a minute and get all the bubbles to the top of the syringe before preceeding again until there's no bubbles for at least two syringe strokes at the cup or in the syringe under vacuum.

Now, seal the brifter first, then put it below the caliper.  Now undo the sryinge and you're done!  Take a ride very slowly and pump esp over bumps.   Make sure the feel doesn't change and you're done! Brakes fillers don't need "manstrength" (I'm female) btw, just slight torque not much at all esp at the brifters. More or less the same with connectors- I do them to maybe 5nm (by feel).

lantz

Re: LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets
« Reply #179 on: October 05, 2023, 06:44:48 PM »
No I just used some tape and packing foam my bike came in. Have done similar on other Shimano batteries in the past and it works fine.

Installing brifters tonight, I can't remember where I read that the lines are already filled with mineral oil, maybe I'm crazy and made that up - was that the case for you?