LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets

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BalticSea

Quote from: Benbenben on March 20, 2024, 02:08:43 PM
I went through this thread and could not find the answer. Apologies if I missed it, but regarding the kit we need to bleed the brakes, do you guys know if we need a particular Ltwoo kit? I have the below kit that says is good for Shimano and SRAM. I was assuming that ltwoo would use the same fittings, but I am unable to confirm.

This kit will not work, I have the same kit and I ran into issue with fittings - they were too thick (lol) to thread into calipers. I ended up buying Jagwire Elite bleeding syringes for Sram.

mtbluvr68

Ordered eGR on 3/11 and the came on 3/19,  didn't pay for air shipping but they got here to Texas in a week.  Pretty nice set up again.  I am disappointed that they don't ship it with mineral oil bottle, olives and barbs, or seatpost battery plug, but overall happy to this point.  Waiting on cassette and chain to install. 
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00Garza

Quote from: mtbluvr68 on March 20, 2024, 02:56:09 PM
Ordered eGR on 3/11 and the came on 3/19,  didn't pay for air shipping but they got here to Texas in a week.  Pretty nice set up again.  I am disappointed that they don't ship it with mineral oil bottle, olives and barbs, or seatpost battery plug, but overall happy to this point.  Waiting on cassette and chain to install.

What store did you get it from? What was the final price?

TidyDinosaur

Quote from: rasch on March 20, 2024, 01:14:12 PM
let me know how it goes with the customs. I was thinking about buying that set but am afraid of customs here in BE
I tried it with 2 orders in the previous sale. Both were about 200 EUR and I did not choose the prepaid shipping option. Both orders were stopped by customs and I had to pay extra both times. I had to pay 10-15% of the value, so still lower than what you would have to pay on Ali. The biggest part of those costs were handling cost for the shipping company. VAT was very little...
Customs do take their sweet time in handling the shipment. So you can expect that will add 1-2 weeks to the delivery times. I suspect this is maybe to discourage you from ordering this way... But they probably also just have a lot of work with all these packages.

Serge_K

Quote from: Benbenben on March 20, 2024, 02:08:43 PM
I went through this thread and could not find the answer. Apologies if I missed it, but regarding the kit we need to bleed the brakes, do you guys know if we need a particular Ltwoo kit? I have the below kit that says is good for Shimano and SRAM. I was assuming that ltwoo would use the same fittings, but I am unable to confirm.

As per Balticsea, this will probably not work. i ended up buying the decathlon bleed kit (c.35 eur) (way more than i would have liked) JUST for the little adaptors to screw into the bleed ports.
I had bought the "EZMTB Bicycle Brake Oil Bleed Kit Tools For SHIMANO SRAM Avid MAGURA Series Hydraulic Disc MTB Road Bike Brake Repair Tool... 2022 STD BAG" and the adaptor was too thick. i tried to file down the fitting, i broke it.
The Decathlon kit: https://www.decathlon.fr/p/kit-de-purge-pour-frein-a-disque-minerale/_/R-p-301337
Btw, out of 5 er9 i installed, i think i bled only 1 or 2. There's oil in the housing, so given that these groups were my first forays into hydraulic brakes, i didn't want to fix something that wasnt broken. Braking's been fine without bleeding on most of them.

zerstorer

I used the full ezmtb kit listed here and it works:
60Ml Bicycle Brake Fluid Mineral Oil System Fluid Cycling Mountain Bikes for Shimano Bike Accessorie Oil Injector
https://a.aliexpress.com/_oCbPLJI

I believe any kit that includes sram adapters should work?

Serge_K

These are plastic fittings. Mine are metal. Maybe that paradoxically, the plastic ones work better? The version i bought was meant to be universal, ie include sram (kit came with a LOT of different fittings).

Avalius

Quote from: rasch on March 20, 2024, 01:14:12 PM
let me know how it goes with the customs. I was thinking about buying that set but am afraid of customs here in BE

Seller declared the value lower i always ask around 170 dollar so it's the absolute minimum import duty and it's a realistic value since the belgian limit is at 150 dollar.
Did this a few times before it works. Don't put 25 dollars on it or they will look it up :)
"You can't be sad while riding a bicycle."

Serge_K

Quote from: Avalius on March 21, 2024, 09:49:33 AM
Seller declared the value lower i always ask around 170 dollar so it's the absolute minimum import duty and it's a realistic value since the belgian limit is at 150 dollar.
Did this a few times before it works. Don't put 25 dollars on it or they will look it up :)

Interesting. So if you spend more than 170 eur on an AliX order, you send a message to the seller, ask they declare a value of 170 eur, that way customs catch the bag, they charge you on that 170 eur, and everybody is happy? What do you then pay, is it 20% on 170 + customs fees?

rutgervr

i am from BE and rideing the er9 groupset, I payed an extra 30€ on tax. They put the price lower without asking them .

But what I read about racing it in kermesse ... I don't know but if you pay 400€ you really can't compare it to shimano or sram. the groupset is okay but not more than that. I wouldn't recommend it to people who really want quality. I was riding this weekend in bad weather and the shifting reactions where just bad. Sometimes you just have to shift like 10 times before the RD reacts to it.

toxin

Sounds like you didn't set it up properly

Sebastian

No such problem on mine. Do you mean the gear won't shift on the cassette? Or does the RD not react to when you push the button? The former would be a setup issue. The latter might be water ingress and contact issues at the cable plug and socket interface.

zerstorer

Check if the plugs are firmly plugged in and maybe change the shifter batteries. My set came with one side shifter battery(cr2032) totally flat because the wrap packaging it came in was pressing on the paddles.


Sebastian

How's everyone's experience with battery life so far? I bought 2x 800mAh batteries. I didn't really pay attention how far I got with the first charge. When I charged the groupset for the second time, I reset the shift counter in the companion app to zero. I have done roughly 4.800 shifts now and the batteries are at 35%. So I should get around 7000-7500 shifts out of a single charge. The bike has done 2.300km with this groupset now. I guess I could do at least another 200km. Some of this was on the indoor trainer, however. Though I do not use ERG mode there, so I shift quite a bit on the indoor trainer as well. All in all, I guess I can expect 1000km per charge without pushing the batteries too much into the red. But if there are batteries with more capacity, this could be increased maybe?

SirBikealot

Quote from: Sebastian on March 24, 2024, 01:48:03 PM
How's everyone's experience with battery life so far? I bought 2x 800mAh batteries. I didn't really pay attention how far I got with the first charge. When I charged the groupset for the second time, I reset the shift counter in the companion app to zero. I have done roughly 4.800 shifts now and the batteries are at 35%. So I should get around 7000-7500 shifts out of a single charge. The bike has done 2.300km with this groupset now. I guess I could do at least another 200km. Some of this was on the indoor trainer, however. Though I do not use ERG mode there, so I shift quite a bit on the indoor trainer as well. All in all, I guess I can expect 1000km per charge without pushing the batteries too much into the red. But if there are batteries with more capacity, this could be increased maybe?
will have a look at it when my set arrives and is installed. I opted for 1100mAh batteries with usb charging. So 1500km is my goal for the first charge?!