LTWOO ER9 & ERX - Electronic groepsets

[user757]

Has there been a mention of eR9 for this generation? I've only seen eR9 for the first release. Still can't justify eRX prices over discounted 105 di2, but with a 50ish discount on eR9 that's a different question

Where are the discounted 105 Di2's available? Anyone know if it's possible to get just the shifter+FD+RD+disc brake calipers+battery (minus crank, cassette, etc.)?

[mrpercussive]

Where are the discounted 105 Di2's available? Anyone know if it's possible to get just the shifter+FD+RD+disc brake calipers+battery (minus crank, cassette, etc.)?

I'm curious too... Would be cool if it came without calipers as well as there are many aftermarket options now

[raisinberry777]

Where are the discounted 105 Di2's available? Anyone know if it's possible to get just the shifter+FD+RD+disc brake calipers+battery (minus crank, cassette, etc.)?

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mq5ZADl

[biceryder]

Funny, I just purchased that exact 105 groupset.  With taxes and shipping it was 720.00.  Shipped to my house via DHL in one week.  Consider me impressed.

[user757]

Seems a lot of the sellers exclude the battery, only include the battery casing. Searched through LTWOO's site and manual but no mention of what battery types the battery case accepts. Anyone know?

[Pumpkin]

Seems a lot of the sellers exclude the battery, only include the battery casing. Searched through LTWOO's site and manual but no mention of what battery types the battery case accepts. Anyone know?

Any type 14500 batteries. 3,7v and 800mAh. Available anywhere at about 5 EUR a piece.
Make sure that the +pole is not flat, there are two options for that. The raised pole is what you want.

[jonathanf2]

Any type 14500 batteries. 3,7v and 800mAh. Available anywhere at about 5 EUR a piece.
Make sure that the +pole is not flat, there are two options for that. The raised pole is what you want.

Also make sure the battery is exactly 50mm. I've picked up 14500 3.7v 800mah batteries that were 51mm-53mm and they're too big. 51mm will barely fit, but I didn't feel comfortable because it put strain on the battery holder casing.

[amacal1]

Make sure that the +pole is not flat, there are two options for that. The raised pole is what you want.

This is often called "button top". You want button top 14500 cells. And, you also want to make sure to get some without extra fancy features. Some offer special USB ports for charging the cell via usb or other things like that. You don't want any of that, and it might interfere with how the Ltwoo charger is supposed to work.

[jonathanf2]

80 Design Store told me they're selling the new V3 ERX as a complete set for now (using the old link). Compared to Panda Podium pricing, it's still cheaper to buy from 80 Design Store and their warranty service has been excellent so far. Though above $500 USD there is also Wheeltop EDS TX and 105 Di2 to consider. Wheeltop and 105 Di2 also allow larger in-spec cassette range. It's nice to have more options! 

[Avalius]

According to 80 designer store everything can be mixed and will work together. Good news for broken RD's! But they aren't selling them seperately.

[Pumpkin]

According to 80 designer store everything can be mixed and will work together. Good news for broken RD's! But they aren't selling them seperately.

I bought a ER9 RD at 80 designer store 4 weeks ago. 151 Euros.

[mrpercussive]

I bought a ER9 RD at 80 designer store 4 weeks ago. 151 Euros.

wait what? Was it on some crazy sale or something?

[Serge_K]

https://a.aliexpress.com/_mq5ZADl

For reference, i could pull the trigger on this group (no cassette) for 630 eur, and i'd expect to pay customs fees (<100 eur?). With the new ERX costing 650$ on Panda podium, the price difference is arguably in favour of shimano, because if you buy ltwoo, you "have" to budget a spare RD. All the bikes i've installed ER9 on have had a RD die.
Note: i just bought another bike for a friend in parts. Aliexpress is becoming very confusing. Prices are much higher than over the summer (10-20% higher), and there's now a lot of volatility over time (if you buy stuff when there is no sales campaign, prices are often much higher, so you really need to time your purchases, even if you forget to use the coupons, and depending on where you ship in europe, prices are increasingly diverging. And there's quality fade i can point to specifically.
Also, as of 2 days ago, it was impossible for me to buy an er9 group on alix, they wouldnt ship it, claiming issue with the 150 eur EU rule. Problem being, you can buy wheels on alix and other stuff that's way above that 150 threshold, so, go figure the logic.
Everything ltwoo also has prices jacked the F up in the last weeks. I used to pay 150 eur for a spare RD, now if i find one that can be shipped, it's much more.
Very confusing stuff, and i'm the highest tier there is on aliexpress, so i know my way around the platform quite well.

[jonathanf2]

I bought a ER9 RD at 80 designer store 4 weeks ago. 151 Euros.

Did you buy an ER9 groupset from 80 Design Store? If you had issues with your RD, they will send you a warranty replacement (just pay shipping fee). 

wait what? Was it on some crazy sale or something?

He said RD only. 151 euros for the whole groupset would be a steal! 

[user757]

For reference, i could pull the trigger on this group (no cassette) for 630 eur, and i'd expect to pay customs fees (<100 eur?). With the new ERX costing 650$ on Panda podium, the price difference is arguably in favour of shimano, because if you buy ltwoo, you "have" to budget a spare RD. All the bikes i've installed ER9 on have had a RD die.
Note: i just bought another bike for a friend in parts. Aliexpress is becoming very confusing. Prices are much higher than over the summer (10-20% higher), and there's now a lot of volatility over time (if you buy stuff when there is no sales campaign, prices are often much higher, so you really need to time your purchases, even if you forget to use the coupons, and depending on where you ship in europe, prices are increasingly diverging. And there's quality fade i can point to specifically.
Also, as of 2 days ago, it was impossible for me to buy an er9 group on alix, they wouldnt ship it, claiming issue with the 150 eur EU rule. Problem being, you can buy wheels on alix and other stuff that's way above that 150 threshold, so, go figure the logic.
Everything ltwoo also has prices jacked the F up in the last weeks. I used to pay 150 eur for a spare RD, now if i find one that can be shipped, it's much more.
Very confusing stuff, and i'm the highest tier there is on aliexpress, so i know my way around the platform quite well.

I didn't think it was just my imagination that the Chinese electronic group sets had jumped on price the last week or so, damn.

What is the best value set right now for just the levers, disc brake calipers and cables plus derailleurs?