Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)

[nabilou]

calm down! my friends

[ceres]

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The only noise here is you.  You wanting to dictate what others say and think is fkn odd.

Can I ask what the problem with your frame was? Mine arrived in perfect condition: the quality of the carbon was excellent, the paint flawless, the bearing seats perfect, the bottom bracket threads perfect, and last but not least, the faces where the brake calipers rest were milled and perfectly parallel, or rather, perpendicular to the brake discs. It has never been so easy to align brake calipers... The result of your crusade is that everyone who has had a good experience with the frame will write it here, haha!

[Bonpensiero]

Can I ask what the problem with your frame was? Mine arrived in perfect condition: the quality of the carbon was excellent, the paint flawless, the bearing seats perfect, the bottom bracket threads perfect, and last but not least, the faces where the brake calipers rest were milled and perfectly parallel, or rather, perpendicular to the brake discs. It has never been so easy to align brake calipers... The result of your crusade is that everyone who has had a good experience with the frame will write it here, haha!

It is not really comprehensible. But it must have something to do with buses.
Just enter “bus” in the search bar. It seems to be an massive problem for Dinorello and Serge...

[dinorello]

Can I ask what the problem with your frame was? Mine arrived in perfect condition: the quality of the carbon was excellent, the paint flawless, the bearing seats perfect, the bottom bracket threads perfect, and last but not least, the faces where the brake calipers rest were milled and perfectly parallel, or rather, perpendicular to the brake discs. It has never been so easy to align brake calipers... The result of your crusade is that everyone who has had a good experience with the frame will write it here, haha!

I've already detailed all the issues in this thread with pictures. Im glad that your frame turned out ok and it's probably due to the fact that I was "crusading" my issues with LC acting as their test pilot/ guinea pig

[mheusler]

I've already detailed all the issues in this thread with pictures. Im glad that your frame turned out ok and it's probably due to the fact that I was "crusading" my issues with LC acting as their test pilot/ guinea pig

just out of interest i looked through the thread again, as i couldn't remember you posting anything with respect to major issues with the frame itself.
This was the only thing I found:
"The front and rear caliper mounts could've been faced to help with alignment.  The rear cutout for the derailleur hanger was a bit wonky and needed a little persuading to help it align to prevent it from binding up the axle when the set screw was tightened.  I choose black to specifically camouflage the overly boxy down tube.  Other than that the bikes been a dream to ride the first 400 miles thus far."
That, plus that you're unhappy with the paintjob (white base coat / no clear coat).

Can you remind me again which other issues you're talking about?

[Serge_K]

This thread kind of has turned to shit. There wouldn't be half as many posts here if it weren't for the few bad frames that were shipped to paying customers.
I hope LC reads it and sees it as "quality control is important. Like hairdressers, we're only as good as our last haircut / frame".
At that point, just like i would never buy a airwolf frame because of the prevalence of horror stories on this forum, i dont think i'd buy a LC frame, because there are plenty of factories to choose from selling functionally similar frames, and i want to ride the frame i receive. I dont want to have a very material chance of receiving something that wouldn't pass basic QC, arguing, waiting, troubleshooting... And so, it's a probability thing. I'd just buy something else because there are plenty of options, and many competitors dont have this recent track record of shipping $hit to customers. Some will say it's overly cautious / paranoid. I call it a probability weighted choice.

[kubackje]

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The only noise here is you.  You wanting to dictate what others say and think is fkn odd.

Dude let it go you're embarrassing yourself

[dinorello]

This thread kind of has turned to shit. There wouldn't be half as many posts here if it weren't for the few bad frames that were shipped to paying customers.
I hope LC reads it and sees it as "quality control is important. Like hairdressers, we're only as good as our last haircut / frame".
At that point, just like i would never buy a airwolf frame because of the prevalence of horror stories on this forum, i dont think i'd buy a LC frame, because there are plenty of factories to choose from selling functionally similar frames, and i want to ride the frame i receive. I dont want to have a very material chance of receiving something that wouldn't pass basic QC, arguing, waiting, troubleshooting... And so, it's a probability thing. I'd just buy something else because there are plenty of options, and many competitors dont have this recent track record of shipping $hit to customers. Some will say it's overly cautious / paranoid. I call it a probability weighted choice.

+1

[dinorello]

just out of interest i looked through the thread again, as i couldn't remember you posting anything with respect to major issues with the frame itself.
This was the only thing I found:
"The front and rear caliper mounts could've been faced to help with alignment.  The rear cutout for the derailleur hanger was a bit wonky and needed a little persuading to help it align to prevent it from binding up the axle when the set screw was tightened.  I choose black to specifically camouflage the overly boxy down tube.  Other than that the bikes been a dream to ride the first 400 miles thus far."
That, plus that you're unhappy with the paintjob (white base coat / no clear coat).

Can you remind me again which other issues you're talking about?

I'd say that dealing with LC was ultimately what turned me sour..  They wouldn't acknowledge any of the issues or would attempt to gaslight me up until I filed a dispute with PayPal.    Looking back I remember that Wendy had tried to convince me to pay via the Friends and family option on PayPal which wouldn't have given me any recourse whatsoever.

[Serge_K]

I'd say that dealing with LC was ultimately what turned me sour..  They wouldn't acknowledge any of the issues or would attempt to gaslight me up until I filed a dispute with PayPal.    Looking back I remember that Wendy had tried to convince me to pay via the Friends and family option on PayPal which wouldn't have given me any recourse whatsoever.

I havent read the whole drama, but this is really bad behavior from them. It's on par with Winow simply ghosting me indefinitely after spending thousands with them. Ok, black list for me. There's enough competition in this sector to afford to pick to work with people who aren't shitty like that.

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Given the heat in the last messages, i figured i'd try and trigger as wide as possible

[dinorello]

One of the benefits of living in a western democracy is being able to voice opinions without fear or favor.

[rasch]

Going back to the topic and answering the user, with 1.90 having 100kg is not that much. I am around 90kg and have a 58 LCR017. I'm not doing jumps with it or anything. It works fine, as one would expect. I don't think 10kg extra would make any difference. In any case you can ask them and maybe get the "standard" version instead of the "superlight" one.

Take everyone's opinion (good or bad) brand, or personal, with a pinch of salt.

[patliean1]

Public shaming works. The visible livelihood of a lot of these brands rests in the hands of positive reviews. Watch them sing a different tune (or just ghost you) once you've taken your critiques public.

Example 1
Couple years ago Elite Wheels told me my channel wasn't large enough to be sent wheels for review. Very fair assessment and I respected their descision. You miss 100% of the shots you don't take. A month later, one of their auth dealer sent me a set of wheels on the shop's own dime to promote their local shop. In that video I mentioned how Elite Wheels didn't want to work with me for being too small. Three weeks later I had Elite sending me messages to send products. Even at the expense of cannibalizing sales/promos from their own dealer network.

Example 2
I've made videos in the past speaking on Yoeleo's poor customer service and fulfillment times during the pandemic. Basically saying stay away from them. Some of my local buddies ended up canceling their orders after waiting 9 months for wheels/frames. I pretty much wrote them off. But this year they came back swinging for the fences. And according to several recent customers they have been doing a good job with service.

Example 3
While Craft Racing Works 50/60 are among my favorite set of wheels, I've mentioned how they aren't great in crosswinds. When I say this publicly usually one of CRWs paid handlers enter my comment section (or privately) to defend them with "Well I don't have problems with crosswinds." Okay cool, but I do...

Example 4
Giant refused to honor my warranty for a cracked steer tube. In my initial email to them I specified that I'm aware of any financial implications incurred on my side. I just wanted my fork replaced. They told me kick rocks. So I made a video highlighting my dilemma. Didn't even bash Giant as a brand. Literally 2 days later they sent another email magically stating they'll cover everything at no cost to me. While I was a full price paying customer, are we to assume they would have done the same had I not had a social media presence? Who knows...

Candid conversations with good faith intentions of holding brands accountable is one thing. Bad faith greivences are another. While some of the comments in here could be a bit scary for new customers/members, I can't say they've been rooted in bad faith. And if these brands do in fact lurk the comment section, nothing is stopping them from chiming in like like Peter does/did with wheels. Or Eddie with Tideace. Because doing right by your grassroot supporters is a good business model.

[dinorello]

Kudos...well said.  TY PL

[Maozi]

Example 4
Giant refused to honor my warranty for a cracked steer tube. In my initial email to them I specified that I'm aware of any financial implications incurred on my side. I just wanted my fork replaced. They told me kick rocks. So I made a video highlighting my dilemma. Didn't even bash Giant as a brand. Literally 2 days later they sent another email magically stating they'll cover everything at no cost to me. While I was a full price paying customer, are we to assume they would have done the same had I not had a social media presence? Who knows...

Mmm... In China, Giant simply refused to warranty all of the cracked steer tubes, blaming it all on the "wrongful installation" by the users.