Author Topic: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)  (Read 143325 times)

PLA

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #750 on: October 04, 2024, 06:11:06 PM »
I'd be more annoyed that they offered to send a new frame in exchange to remove the video or at a minimum asked to take down the video. That would make me put the video back up as soon as I received the frame and made sure it wasn't made out of paper and water. And I'd make a follow up video saying that they asked to remove the video.
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PLA

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #751 on: October 04, 2024, 06:13:22 PM »
There are 2 issues here. The shittest frame known to mankind in the history of the universe, and then LC trying to cover it up. I'm not sure which is worse.

Send the video to me, I'll post it for you once you receive the new frame
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dinorello

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #752 on: October 04, 2024, 10:59:28 PM »
It only takes one bad meal to ruin a restaurant's reputation.

mheusler

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #753 on: October 05, 2024, 02:25:30 AM »
even then, the restaurant should be given the opportunity to make it right.

There is a lot of fuss being made here about one frame. i think there will be QC issues but as long as the companies deal with it in the right way (in the end the customer should be satisfied with what they got), for me this is acceptable.
After all, to expect flawless QC at a fraction of the price for western brands is quite unrealistic.

On a different note: does anybody have the exact clearance for the fork and seat stays? Im wondering if 32 mm really is the limit or if i can push it a couple more mm if necessary.

Serge_K

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #754 on: October 05, 2024, 03:14:21 AM »
even then, the restaurant should be given the opportunity to make it right.

There is a lot of fuss being made here about one frame. i think there will be QC issues but as long as the companies deal with it in the right way (in the end the customer should be satisfied with what they got), for me this is acceptable.
After all, to expect flawless QC at a fraction of the price for western brands is quite unrealistic.

On a different note: does anybody have the exact clearance for the fork and seat stays? Im wondering if 32 mm really is the limit or if i can push it a couple more mm if necessary.

I agree, as per my previous post. A factory that makes 1000 frames will have more QC issues than one that makes 10, assuming a constant error rate. And Yishun is very big, afaik. So while i'm disappointed by their reaction to the swiss cheese frame, taking a step back, yishun / lightcarbon is still a seller with great reputation overall. So the restaurant analogy isn't quite right.

On clearance, it's rated 32C, not 32mm, so you can run a 32C tyre on a wider than 32mm rim, your tyre will measure 32-33-34...mm and you'll be fine. If you're saying you want to run a 35C tyre, then it's a different question. On my LT268, i have a 34mm rim and a 32C tyre, and i have loads of space all around. the frame is also rated 32C.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

mheusler

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #755 on: October 05, 2024, 03:58:50 AM »
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On clearance, it's rated 32C, not 32mm, so you can run a 32C tyre on a wider than 32mm rim, your tyre will measure 32-33-34...mm and you'll be fine. If you're saying you want to run a 35C tyre, then it's a different question. On my LT268, i have a 34mm rim and a 32C tyre, and i have loads of space all around. the frame is also rated 32C.

Aah! learn something new everyday :-)
thanks for the clarification, this really helps!

dinorello

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #756 on: October 07, 2024, 04:36:27 PM »
People know it. If people are really interested in the frame and they saw Hambini’s review, is not that short video that will stop them from pulling the trigger.i actually drop that video even before Hambinis review. The video is still around if people try to know more about the frame they will find it

Was the bottom bracket on the frame they sent you faced?  Can you post more pictures of your frames clear over raw carbon paint job?  Interested in the carbon layup.  thanks

mheusler

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #757 on: October 20, 2024, 06:37:34 AM »
not sure if this is new (it is to me). LC is promoting the LCR017-D with '"Z3" Level Quality' on their homepage. This at least matches what Jim and Gavin have mentioned in the email correspondence I had with them.
Looks like people should then also be able to refer to that in case of any issues with the QC



Sgt.Hole

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #758 on: October 20, 2024, 08:17:04 AM »
Size chart seems to be updated as well…
« Last Edit: October 20, 2024, 08:22:01 AM by Sgt.Hole »

Serge_K

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #759 on: October 20, 2024, 02:05:42 PM »
not sure if this is new (it is to me). LC is promoting the LCR017-D with '"Z3" Level Quality' on their homepage. This at least matches what Jim and Gavin have mentioned in the email correspondence I had with them.
Looks like people should then also be able to refer to that in case of any issues with the QC

It is ironic given they shipped several dubious frames to people on this forum. "Am i going to die if i ride this" kind of dubious.
Fast on the flat. And nowhere else.

BeR

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #760 on: October 20, 2024, 10:51:20 PM »
Can anyone explain to me what Z3 quality is and all the other qualities?

Do all other sellers also use this notation?

dinorello

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #761 on: October 21, 2024, 02:42:32 AM »
Can anyone explain to me what Z3 quality is and all the other qualities?

Do all theother sellers also use this notation?

I think hambini made it up so he can sell more light carbon frames and get a kick back from them

mheusler

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #762 on: October 21, 2024, 02:55:48 AM »
I think hambini made it up so he can sell more light carbon frames and get a kick back from them

man, knock it off. can you please engage in constructive discussion and not this sh*t. (you're also getting into libel territory here, if you can not back up your accusations.)

rasch

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #763 on: October 21, 2024, 03:28:00 AM »
This is just pure marketing from them.

They even changed the chart like Sgt.Hole said but as far as I see changed only the recommended sizing (at least on size 58). This makes it feel like that have "updated/upgraded sth".

Honestly not a great approach, but doesn't make them a bad company. I'd still buy and recommend from them, though now I'm looking into other supplier because their frame design is not so consensual among my clients/friends.

mheusler

Re: Lightcarbon: New LCR017-D (or Yishun R1058-D)
« Reply #764 on: October 21, 2024, 06:11:00 AM »
Can anyone explain to me what Z3 quality is and all the other qualities?

Do all other sellers also use this notation?

To properly answer your question: this notion of different quality control levels in the context of Lightcarbon came out of a discussion Hambini had with LC people at Eurobike 2024. Hambini explains it in his blog here: https://www.hambini.com/bike-frame-manufacturing-standards/

Here's the main summary of the qc levels: