TanTan - Seraph FM121 XC 120mm Full Suspension 2024 model

[gas0fa]

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the clearance issue solved...

my fault, when tightening the steering cap, I didn't realize that it was already hitting the fork bar, I added another spacer and problem solved


one question, the suspension system of this model, is it with flex in the stays right? because in a vacuum without a shock absorber if I tried to move the rod forward it was very very hard almost impossible to push with my hand.

Thanks guys for the help

[Specialf.]

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the clearance issue solved...

my fault, when tightening the steering cap, I didn't realize that it was already hitting the fork bar, I added another spacer and problem solved


one question, the suspension system of this model, is it with flex in the stays right? because in a vacuum without a shock absorber if I tried to move the rod forward it was very very hard almost impossible to push with my hand.

Thanks guys for the help

hello. first of all congratulations on the bike, very nice.
as for the flex of the seatstays I don't know what you mean by very hard.
another question, is the handlebar the one supplied by seraph? if so could you tell me what length the stem is?
do you have some other photos of the handlebar area I'm interested in understanding how you passed inside the handlebar with the tubes. thanks.

[jefflinde]

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the clearance issue solved...

my fault, when tightening the steering cap, I didn't realize that it was already hitting the fork bar, I added another spacer and problem solved


one question, the suspension system of this model, is it with flex in the stays right? because in a vacuum without a shock absorber if I tried to move the rod forward it was very very hard almost impossible to push with my hand.

Thanks guys for the help

Yes that frame has flex stays. I don't have that exact frame but have had many with them and there can be some resistance in getting the suspension to cycle through its travel.  It should not be rough but should take some effort. I would not call it very hard but if you flip the frame upside down the rear triangle should not cycle through on its own. I would be suspicious if you could barely move the suspension. That does not seem normal to me.

[gas0fa]

hello. first of all congratulations on the bike, very nice.
as for the flex of the seatstays I don't know what you mean by very hard.
another question, is the handlebar the one supplied by seraph? if so could you tell me what length the stem is?
do you have some other photos of the handlebar area I'm interested in understanding how you passed inside the handlebar with the tubes. thanks.

Hi friend.

I bought that handlebar separately. It's the new one they've released, the wiring runs completely through the interior (I'm attaching photos) and it comes with 6 height spacers included.

It looks very nice aesthetically, but it's a lot of work to run the cables once the covers are cut.

They come with a width of 80 cm, I cut it to 76. and with a length of 70/80/90/100/110. This one of mine is 90. with an inclination of -10.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

[Specialf.]

ok, thanks for the answers, I had bought it too, it will be in the package that was lost..
aesthetically it is not very nice but if the cables are hidden well it is nice.
I asked for a photo of the assembled bike taken from the front to see the handlebars completely grips and brake levers the whole thing in short.
it would be nice to simply see the bike seen from the front.

[gas0fa]

Tomorrow I'll take a photo of the front without any problem.

I hope that when it arrives it doesn't happen to you like it did to me. They painted all the bearings, and I had to buy new ones and change them. I wrote to Rose complaining. I suppose that when they come back on vacation she will see it

Another thing that happened to me. The shock absorber shaft screw is 7.6mm and not 8mm, so it has a small, very minimal play. I have ordered other screws that measure 8 mm correctly. I have temporarily solved it by making a small cover.

If you have any questions, I will be happy to help you.

[gas0fa]

Hi friend.

I bought that handlebar separately. It's the new one they've released, the wiring runs completely through the interior (I'm attaching photos) and it comes with 6 height spacers included.

It looks very nice aesthetically, but it's a lot of work to run the cables once the covers are cut.

They come with a width of 80 cm, I cut it to 76. and with a length of 70/80/90/100/110. This one of mine is 90. with an inclination of -10.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.

Thanks for answering my friend.

Yes, you can't flex the travel of that frame with your hands. Once assembled and applying pressure with your body, it does flex the seat stays. I like that with the suspension closed it is very very rigid and rides like an airplane. I still need to test it further.

[gas0fa]

ok, thanks for the answers, I had bought it too, it will be in the package that was lost..
aesthetically it is not very nice but if the cables are hidden well it is nice.
I asked for a photo of the assembled bike taken from the front to see the handlebars completely grips and brake levers the whole thing in short.
it would be nice to simply see the bike seen from the front.

[Specialf.]

thanks, I actually don't like the handlebars very much, it's quite wide in the central part. The passage of the tubes inside instead seems perfect, but you have the levels that are designed specifically, I have shimano and the curve of the tube will probably be very narrow.
another question, I also have the remote of the telescopic seat post, in your opinion do 2 sheaths pass inside the handlebars?

[gas0fa]

thanks, I actually don't like the handlebars very much, it's quite wide in the central part. The passage of the tubes inside instead seems perfect, but you have the levels that are designed specifically, I have shimano and the curve of the tube will probably be very narrow.
another question, I also have the remote of the telescopic seat post, in your opinion do 2 sheaths pass inside the handlebars?

Hi friend.

Yes, with the SRAM Stealth brakes, the handlebar looks much more aesthetically pleasing.

This particular handlebar is 9 cm, with a shorter one, it feels less wide.

And yes, two tubes go through without a problem. My friend has a SRAM cable shifter, and the 3 cables have been passed through. I couldn't tell you if 4 of them fit through the inside of the tube and the cable guide system, but 3 cables do go through.

Regards

[michael_pappas]

Tomorrow I'll take a photo of the front without any problem.

I hope that when it arrives it doesn't happen to you like it did to me. They painted all the bearings, and I had to buy new ones and change them. I wrote to Rose complaining. I suppose that when they come back on vacation she will see it

Another thing that happened to me. The shock absorber shaft screw is 7.6mm and not 8mm, so it has a small, very minimal play. I have ordered other screws that measure 8 mm correctly. I have temporarily solved it by making a small cover.

If you have any questions, I will be happy to help you.

My shock bolt is also 7.6mm and has too much play. Do you have a link for an 8mm bolt?

[gas0fa]

My shock bolt is also 7.6mm and has too much play. Do you have a link for an 8mm bolt?

Hello friend.

I think it's a botch job that they send you a bolt with a smaller diameter than the hole... and even more so knowing the function it has. I hope that the seller Rose answers when the Chinese holidays are over.

I have asked many sellers, and none of them confirm that it can measure 8mm, only one, but the head is too big.

I'll send you the link of the one that I took a chance on and ordered, but it hasn't arrived yet.

The only thing I've done is put a cover on the bolt and now it stays consistent and doesn't match.

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[ELTR]

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the clearance issue solved...

my fault, when tightening the steering cap, I didn't realize that it was already hitting the fork bar, I added another spacer and problem solved


one question, the suspension system of this model, is it with flex in the stays right? because in a vacuum without a shock absorber if I tried to move the rod forward it was very very hard almost impossible to push with my hand.

Thanks guys for the help

Thats exactly what i meant in my previous post!
So that the swingarm seems to Go in a different direction than the rear triangle which causes the seatstays to flex enormously ( Must be around 4-6cm according to the Frame geometry ) Normally Even with flexstays the rear triangle should move quite free without a Suspension but in this case it seems that it doesn‘t. This also causes a Lots of tension in the bearings!
And in the worst scenario the Seat stay could brake.

Please let me know your riding Feedback
Best regards

[gas0fa]

Thats exactly what i meant in my previous post!
So that the swingarm seems to Go in a different direction than the rear triangle which causes the seatstays to flex enormously ( Must be around 4-6cm according to the Frame geometry ) Normally Even with flexstays the rear triangle should move quite free without a Suspension but in this case it seems that it doesn‘t. This also causes a Lots of tension in the bearings!
And in the worst scenario the Seat stay could brake.

Please let me know your riding Feedback
Best regards

Hi friend

I haven't been able to test the bike much yet, but the little I have tried it on and adjusted the SAG to 20% it flexes very well without any opposition.

I think the flex it does is a maximum of 4 cm, 6 cm would seem exaggerated to me.

Greetings

I would also like to ask if anyone else has bought the shock absorber shaft, so that between us all we can get the correct one. I hope that Rose gives me some solution, and I will tell you something about it.

[ELTR]

Ok thanks a Lot for your response and i am looking forward to more testing Reviews of you.
Did you find it hard to mount the rear Suspension ? And which mountin Kits of Fox Are you using?
Best regards