WheelTop EDS TX Full Wireless Groupset (Chinese SRAM)

[glepore]

Thank. I have tried this few days ago and they said that they enabled my account. However, app is still not allowing me to do fine running and I believe that they did not set it properly so I have sent them another email yesterday but no response yet.

My question is more about will enabled fine running help me at all. Looking at front derailer find tunning screen it is hard to understand how to use it. Are these micro adjustments of front derailer based on selected rear gear ?

There are five tunable positions IIRC. You'll have to search around for what the numbers mean or ask on the FB group. Its something like initial position, small ring trim position, initial big ring, big ring trim, limit or something like that.

[stojos]

Thanks. It is clear to see what each parameter does inside wheeltop app because it shows the photo of the front deralier in position that paratemer is controlling. The first time I looked at this was inside dreds app that does not have a photo - just parameters so it was confusing.

[abrasax]

Hi, I've just bought the EDS TX last december and currently very happy with it.
Around 2500km and, except the initial setup,  very happy, two battery charges until today in a pretty plain area -Madrid city, Spain-.
I would like to ask you for an alternate charge cable replacement not as expensive as the original ones.

[shaxberd]

Hey TX'ers!

I recently ordered a replacement battery for my GeX groupset, but got the TX one. They haven't asked for it back, so if anyone EU-based (sorry, not keen on sorting customs stuff) needs/wants a TX replacement unit for the price of covering shipping, DM me. Looks like DHL shipping starts at 6,99€ (4,19€ if you're in DE).

[ChuckyRagnar55]

Hi, I want to add a derailleur hanger with ceramic rollers. I've seen that they have an official one from the brand that costs around 100 euros, but I want to know if there's another one that's also reliable and a bit cheaper.

[glepore]

Hi, I want to add a derailleur hanger with ceramic rollers. I've seen that they have an official one from the brand that costs around 100 euros, but I want to know if there's another one that's also reliable and a bit cheaper.

I believe any of the ones spec'd for DA 12spd will fit and work. I used the SLS aero clone available on ali as an experiment, and it fit without modification. Its been on the bike for a full season without issues. I would note that it does reduce capacity a small amount in my application as the upper wheel (its oversized as well) prevents use of big/big with a 34t rear. A 32 would likely clear, as would running a slightly smaller upper pulley.

[CoffeeNbikes]

Hello, looking to buy wheeltop eds tx, i have ultegra di2 right now. I would like to know if someone can measure and compare the shifter/hood reach between wheeltop and shimano as i am trying to know if I need to change stem lenght to keep same reaxh. Thanks

[JakobM]

Hey TX'ers!

I recently ordered a replacement battery for my GeX groupset, but got the TX one. They haven't asked for it back, so if anyone EU-based (sorry, not keen on sorting customs stuff) needs/wants a TX replacement unit for the price of covering shipping, DM me. Looks like DHL shipping starts at 6,99€ (4,19€ if you're in DE).

I would gladely take it to have a spare. Shipping to Germany. I can´t seem to send you a PM.

[78Staff]

Yeah, its jockey wheel to small. Its a poor translation. Hopefully Rotor will fix some of that. The chain length thing is cage length dependent, so it depends on what you're coming from.
As to the occasional slow shifts on "upshift" (assume you mean to larger cog) mine did that initially, usually on cogs 5-6-7, microtuning like 5 steps helped and going to a goldix cassette from ztto solved it.

Have a bit of time on the TX setup now. overall it's... acceptable, I guess.  I mean, it works.  It has some annoyances though.  Minor leaking on both caliper pistons as previously reported.  I'm sure WT would replace them, but I don't feel like pulling them off and waiting a couple weeks if I am being honest (the whole "send it in then we will ship the replacement") is a big turnoff.  Levers rattle a bit at times, as others have noted.  Rear bleed port is in an awkward spot, imo - hard to get fittings aligned when installing or bleeded, etc.

I constantly fight the ch-ch-ch when shifting.  New (when TX installed) Ultegra cassette, new DuraAce/XT 12sp waxed chain.  It's a bit maddening, because it doesn't happen every time, but more often than not.  Adjusting it out is almost impossible, or at least to me it is - since it doesn't occur on every shift.  So you think you might have it adjusted out, then it starts happening again.  I've checked the hanger alignment, played with all kinds of B-screw clearances, reset initial setting and of course played with manual tuning to my wits end.  When I get it as good as I can get it, I will still have some chatter in the middle of the cassette.  It's truly maddening, tbh.  Enough so that combined with the leakly pistons and rattling levers, I am considering just upgrading to DI2.  Could repurpose this kit on my Gravel bike, or just sell it outright I suppose.

Maybe I should try that goldix cassette first, though.  Just odd that higher end Ultegra cassette would be the issue.  TBH I never heard of Goldix before the above poster mentioned it.

OH - Also Cade Media/Wild Things just did a test/review on the Rotor-branded Wheeltop kit, and thoroughly trashed it.  Many of the issues they dealt with are common issues discussed here and on FB groups, so in reality it just appears they stuck the Rotor name on the TX group with some minor aesthetic changes...  Having trouble posting the link, just search Cade Media on youtube it will be one of the recent vids...

[78Staff]

...Enough so that combined with the leakly pistons and rattling levers, I am considering just upgrading to DI2.  Could repurpose this kit on my Gravel bike, or just sell it outright I suppose.

Ehh, found a sweet deal locally on Ultregra di2, so am just going that direction.  Will decide what to do with TX after I pull it off.  It might work better on the less finicky 11sp GRX based setup on my gravel bike, but tbh the GRX mechanical is setup pretty much on point, I hate to mess with it lol...  Anyway, the teardown begins (again lol).  Good thing I enjoy turning wrenches on bikes .

[CoffeeNbikes]

Have a bit of time on the TX setup now. overall it's... acceptable, I guess.  I mean, it works.  It has some annoyances though.  Minor leaking on both caliper pistons as previously reported.  I'm sure WT would replace them, but I don't feel like pulling them off and waiting a couple weeks if I am being honest (the whole "send it in then we will ship the replacement") is a big turnoff.  Levers rattle a bit at times, as others have noted.  Rear bleed port is in an awkward spot, imo - hard to get fittings aligned when installing or bleeded, etc.

I constantly fight the ch-ch-ch when shifting.  New (when TX installed) Ultegra cassette, new DuraAce/XT 12sp waxed chain.  It's a bit maddening, because it doesn't happen every time, but more often than not.  Adjusting it out is almost impossible, or at least to me it is - since it doesn't occur on every shift.  So you think you might have it adjusted out, then it starts happening again.  I've checked the hanger alignment, played with all kinds of B-screw clearances, reset initial setting and of course played with manual tuning to my wits end.  When I get it as good as I can get it, I will still have some chatter in the middle of the cassette.  It's truly maddening, tbh.  Enough so that combined with the leakly pistons and rattling levers, I am considering just upgrading to DI2.  Could repurpose this kit on my Gravel bike, or just sell it outright I suppose.

Maybe I should try that goldix cassette first, though.  Just odd that higher end Ultegra cassette would be the issue.  TBH I never heard of Goldix before the above poster mentioned it.

OH - Also Cade Media/Wild Things just did a test/review on the Rotor-branded Wheeltop kit, and thoroughly trashed it.  Many of the issues they dealt with are common issues discussed here and on FB groups, so in reality it just appears they stuck the Rotor name on the TZ group with some minor aesthetic changes...  Having trouble posting the link, just search Cade Media on youtube it will be one of the recent vids...

Which caliper you use? There are 3 wheeltop models..thanks

[Bambelbie]

not want to judge any of them "Influenza"-guys on YT...I do watch them as well from times...
so just my 2ct on my Rotor Uno setup.

running it on my Yoeleo gravel Altera...1x13
set it up with 13sp AXS 10-46 Force cassette, flattop chain
(there is one thing you do need: a custom derailleur hangar)

and it just works perfect...so I cannot imagine why they were not able to install a clean shifting 11-46.

anyhow...thats just my experience
(yes, calipers are somewhere near an Ultegra brake...)

cheers

[78Staff]

Which caliper you use? There are 3 wheeltop models..thanks

The latest TX calipers - not sure what they are officially called.  But the new ones. 

I moved the TX groupset to my Gravel bike, figured I would try it there before selling it, as I suspect I'll take a beating if I do sell it .  But, tbh it seems to be working better with 11sp (Shimano).  Had to really max out the FD setup to deal with the GRX wider chainline, but it does reach.  Re the issues on the 12sp Domani - my guess is that 12/13sp might be a bit problematic for the TX, while the (relatively) more straightforward 10/11sp setups it does better with.  But just a guess.  Might be some operator error in there as well lol, although I worked on it quite a bit (several weeks) before deciding to pull it.

Also, when I pulled the brakes this time there was no mineral oil on the backs of the pads, so maybe it was just a "getting the pistons seated" kinda deal... first time there was quite a bit (as pictured in my OP), 2nd time I pulled the pads to check there was still a bit, but less than the first time, and this time there was none. 

I will say, one complaint I still have is the shorter chain requirement of the WT setups in general (due to smaller derailleur cogs based on comment earlier in the thread) - you basically "ruin" a chain because you've shortened it past what most other group/brand setups would need.  So my advice to anyone "on the fence" would be to start with a lower cost chain, that way if you decide you don't like it and move to something else, you won't have effed up your DA chain .  For my swap to the 11sp gravel, I put a couple links back in it since moving from 11-30 to 11-34 cassette, and didn't want to cut another chain lol.  I know that's not the norm anymore, but before quick links we all used to re-pin chains, so it will do for testing, anyway.

[78Staff]

not want to judge any of them "Influenza"-guys on YT...I do watch them as well from times...
so just my 2ct on my Rotor Uno setup.

running it on my Yoeleo gravel Altera...1x13
set it up with 13sp AXS 10-46 Force cassette, flattop chain
(there is one thing you do need: a custom derailleur hangar)

and it just works perfect...so I cannot imagine why they were not able to install a clean shifting 11-46.

anyhow...thats just my experience
(yes, calipers are somewhere near an Ultegra brake...)

cheers

Nice... well I guess that blows my 12/13sp theory out the window lol... Although it is the Rotor version not the TX... and 1x instead of 2x, which might be part of the TX issues. 

[Bambelbie]

  ... well

on my road bike I set up my wheeltop GEX 1x12
running it with a Goldix 10-44 12sp cassette and flattop chain.
smooth running.

and yes I also have the edsTX version, but converted completely to 1x on RR and GR
btw i have the GEX paired to Shimano Ultegra calipers (works well, bit smoother)

now to edsTX...the front derailleur is a bit weak in terms of moving the chain under power.
and if you experience some weird ghost shifting on your rear der. , I did find 1 possible culprit.

you have the mounting screw and kind of underneath the "radial" linkage which mounts to your hanger.
if you tightened the screw and there is still a lot of wiggle/waggle movement, then maybe the O-ring underneath is worn.
I managed to squeeze in a new O-ring and it sits tight again...no more ghost shifts.